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01-07-2021, 11:56 AM
#991
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Topdog
It worries me that we used pick 4 on someone we rate as a development player. Hoping that he makes us look smart in 10 years time.
This was my only early post. I didn't watch any U18's so couldn't comment on him as a player.
I guess you could say he made us look smart.
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01-07-2021, 11:57 AM
#992
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
The years fly by pretty quickly.
Hard to believe Bont has been on our list for 8 years!
Hard to believe many of us have been on this forum for 14-15 years!
What a bastion for sensibility this place is.
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01-07-2021, 12:23 PM
#993
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
But it is what kids actually do.
16 - 19 year old boys go through huge physical development, often in a very short time frame individually.
It seemed that Dalrymple really favoured those kids and often we were drafting the younger of those eligible.
Bont, Naughton, Bailey Smith all fit that category plus Bailey Williams, JJ and also Lewis Young
He placed a LOT of focus on the way players demonstrated what they learned at the champs when they returned to the 18's in late July and how they improved at the end of the year.
Believed that whilst the step-up in pressure/intensity didn't always IMMEDIATELY lead to improvement, the 'very best' kids would absorb the lessons and apply them...
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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01-07-2021, 12:48 PM
#994
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
comrade
It's pretty amazing that a kid can improve that much, that quickly.
Clayton Oliver didn't even make the squad for champs but improved so much in the back half of the year he went at pick 4.
Going back further, Callan Ward came from nowhere and was drafted on his rate of improvement.
It looks like Sam Darcy is following that trend, although one draft watcher still thinks he projects best as a KPD at AFL level as he just doesn't quite get separation that other KPFs do.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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01-07-2021, 12:51 PM
#995
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Clayton Oliver didn't even make the squad for champs but improved so much in the back half of the year he went at pick 4.
Going back further, Callan Ward came from nowhere and was drafted on his rate of improvement.
It looks like Sam Darcy is following that trend, although one draft watcher still thinks he projects best as a KPD at AFL level as he just doesn't quite get separation that other KPFs do.
Yeah, it can happen but very, very rare to the extent Bont exploded and then went on with it. I would love to have seen the reaction if you told mjp after the champs that Bont may actually go down as the greatest Bulldog EVER.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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01-07-2021, 02:42 PM
#996
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
I think I've mentioned this before - but in 2014 I was at a Presidents dinner where an injured Matthew Boyd was being interviewed and described Bont as the 'most talented player he has seen walk into the club'. I think Bont may have only played 2-3 games at the time and it was definitely before the Melbourne match winner game.
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01-07-2021, 04:19 PM
#997
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Ozza
I think I've mentioned this before - but in 2014 I was at a Presidents dinner where an injured Matthew Boyd was being interviewed and described Bont as the 'most talented player he has seen walk into the club'. I think Bont may have only played 2-3 games at the time and it was definitely before the Melbourne match winner game.
McCarthy was very effusive about Macrae being an absolute gun from day dot - but was pretty much on the 'Bont will be better' bandwagon as soon as Marcus walked into the club.
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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01-07-2021, 09:36 PM
#998
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Ozza
I think I've mentioned this before - but in 2014 I was at a Presidents dinner where an injured Matthew Boyd was being interviewed and described Bont as the 'most talented player he has seen walk into the club'. I think Bont may have only played 2-3 games at the time and it was definitely before the Melbourne match winner game.
I was at that dinner and remember him saying that.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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01-07-2021, 09:49 PM
#999
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
But it is what kids actually do.
16 - 19 year old boys go through huge physical development, often in a very short time frame individually.
It seemed that Dalrymple really favoured those kids and often we were drafting the younger of those eligible.
Bont, Naughton, Bailey Smith all fit that category plus Bailey Williams, JJ and also Lewis Young
I used to walk into work and regularly pass Brendan Mccartney. I'd wear dogs tops and eventually said hi, thanked him for his contribution. We spoke pretty regularly for a few months and I would ask everything i could about the inner sanctum. He certainly wasnt shy sharing his views on players and in particular Peter Gordon.
Anyway - Bont came up one day and he told me that Dalrymple was resolute on Aish; BMac had to put his foot down and force Bont through. Said when he went out to watch him play juniors he was the best player he'd seen "since watching Gaz as a junior with Bomber Thompson"
Least that's the way he told it. twice.
The dam wall has busted!
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01-07-2021, 11:18 PM
#1000
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
AshMac
Anyway - Bont came up one day and he told me that Dalrymple was resolute on Aish; BMac had to put his foot down and force Bont through. Said when he went out to watch him play juniors he was the best player he'd seen "since watching Gaz as a junior with Bomber Thompson"
Least that's the way he told it. twice.
Lmao of course he was.
I don’t doubt that he told you this. I just doubt that it, you know, happened.
- I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -
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01-07-2021, 11:20 PM
#1001
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Lmao of course he was.
I don’t doubt that he told you this. I just doubt that it, you know, happened.
He does pump his own tyres.
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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01-07-2021, 11:22 PM
#1002
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
bornadog
He does pump his own tyres.
Someone has to. I don’t know anyone who would.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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01-07-2021, 11:27 PM
#1003
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Lmao of course he was.
I don’t doubt that he told you this. I just doubt that it, you know, happened.
I'm not the only one then?
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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01-07-2021, 11:28 PM
#1004
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
You may have heard about the 2016 premiership, but I bet you haven’t heard about all of the players one by one ringing B-Mac in the rooms immediately after the game to tell him that he’s the best coach any of them ever played for and that he was responsible for the flag and that he’s also a very cool and handsome guy.
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01-07-2021, 11:46 PM
#1005
Re: Marcus Bontempelli
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
You may have heard about the 2016 premiership, but I bet you haven’t heard about all of the players one by one ringing B-Mac in the rooms immediately after the game to tell him that he’s the best coach any of them ever played for and that he was responsible for the flag and that he’s also a very cool and handsome guy.
It's that school teacher coolness he has going for him.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.