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17-05-2022, 07:34 PM
#106
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
hujsh
It felt a lot more secure with the idea Schache would be playing back this year but that seems to be a bust as of round 1 and I have no clue what the plan is for him anymore.
Round one was a bust for much of the team. 44 hitouts to 20 and 10 more scoring shots gave Melbourne a lot of drive.
Schache played well at both ends against Adelaide and got dropped (after the usual 1 game sequence ) and others who were worse stayed in. Schache got 2 goals in the second half when he went to the forward line because it was breaking down. It had only kicked 3 goals in the first half. But In the second half Walker became dominant and the backline couldn’t hold up.
That one point loss was a disgrace and some supporters are still angry.
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17-05-2022, 07:42 PM
#107
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
azabob
No one. Carlton have a few injuries in the backend.
He wasn’t in their best 22 for the first few weeks.
Young had 28 marks in his last 3 games. I think Carlton is probably happy with that.
Especially combined with his 45 disposals.
A superstar compared to what we are seeing.
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17-05-2022, 07:49 PM
#108
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Danjul
Young had 28 marks in his last 3 games. I think Carlton is probably happy with that.
Especially combined with his 45 disposals.
A superstar compared to what we are seeing.
Fairly comparable with Gardner, though is getting more of the footy and has really picked up his disposal efficiency. Not sure how much of it is sharing the footy around in defence prior to launch, as I don't watch enough of Carlton, but it's not something we use Gardner for.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&fid1=S&fid2=S
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17-05-2022, 07:57 PM
#109
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Fairly comparable with Gardner, though is getting more of the footy and has really picked up his disposal efficiency. Not sure how much of it is sharing the footy around in defence prior to launch, as I don't watch enough of Carlton, but it's not something we use Gardner for.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&fid1=S&fid2=S
Young also has a considerably worse one on one defensive winning percentage than Gardner (more losses from less contests), despite playing with Jacob Weitering and therefore on by and large far worse players than Gards has had to without Keath.
He sure can get on the end of that switch kick though.
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17-05-2022, 07:58 PM
#110
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Young also has a considerably worse one on one defensive winning percentage than Gardner (more losses from less contests), despite playing with Jacob Weitering and therefore on by and large far worse players than Gards has had to without Keath.
He sure can get on the end of that switch kick though.
I'd be interested in seeing those stats if they're available.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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17-05-2022, 08:01 PM
#111
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
I'd be interested in seeing those stats if they're available.
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/leaders...ataType=totals
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17-05-2022, 08:04 PM
#112
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Who's Lewis Young keeping out of the side at Carlton presently?
It will be interesting to see if he holds his spot but losing Jones and Marchbank and McGovern being injured he's been a handy player for them.
With Pittonet out maybe Carlton does a Bevo and let him slide into the relief ruck spot for a period of time.
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17-05-2022, 08:09 PM
#113
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Danjul
Young had 28 marks in his last 3 games. I think Carlton is probably happy with that.
Especially combined with his 45 disposals.
A superstar compared to what we are seeing.
The Carlton supporters I know are very happy with him. Lets see if he can hold his spot.
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17-05-2022, 08:44 PM
#114
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Had we actually played Young he may have stayed and we'd have some depth in defence.
With Keath's continuing issues with soft tissue it's a real concern going forward and I'm certainly not comfortable with O'Brien being the one and only back up.
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17-05-2022, 09:18 PM
#115
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Young also has a considerably worse one on one defensive winning percentage than Gardner (more losses from less contests), despite playing with Jacob Weitering and therefore on by and large far worse players than Gards has had to without Keath.
He sure can get on the end of that switch kick though.
False. Your stats averages are
contested defence one-on-1 Young 3.2 Gardner 2.4. O’Brien 2.6. Cordy 0.4
loss. Young 1.2 Gardner 0.7. O’Brien 1.2. Cordy 0.3
win. Young 2. Gardner 1.7 O’Brien 1.4 Cordy 0.1
so Young had more of these contests and won more.
So At worst Young seems to be comparable to (Gardner who is impressing everyone with his improvement this year) and O’Brien (who has impressed everyone as a great pick up this year).
Actually, the one who surprised me in those stats was Sweet. He scored very highly in some categories. Thanks for sharing the link.
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17-05-2022, 09:22 PM
#116
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Danjul
False. Your stats averages are
contested defence one-on-1 Young 3.2 Gardner 2.4. O’Brien 2.6. Cordy 0.4
loss. Young 1.2 Gardner 0.7. O’Brien 1.2. Cordy 0.3
win. Young 2. Gardner 1.7 O’Brien 1.4 Cordy 0.1
so Young had more of these contests and won more.
So At worst Young seems to be comparable to (Gardner who is impressing everyone with his improvement this year) and O’Brien (who has impressed everyone as a great pick up this year).
Actually, the one who surprised me in those stats was Sweet. He scored very highly in some categories. Thanks for sharing the link.
Keep in mind that the Sweet stats can only be for 1 game.
Lets see how he backs it up for as long as the MC decide he can get a game.
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17-05-2022, 09:24 PM
#117
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Joe
Keep in mind that the Sweet stats can only be for 1 game.
Lets see how he backs it up for as long as the MC decide he can get a game.
Agree.
But from what I have read I thought it was beyond him. That’s why I was surprised.
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17-05-2022, 09:28 PM
#118
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Danjul
False. Your stats averages are
contested defence one-on-1 Young 3.2 Gardner 2.4. O’Brien 2.6. Cordy 0.4
loss. Young 1.2 Gardner 0.7. O’Brien 1.2. Cordy 0.3
win. Young 2. Gardner 1.7 O’Brien 1.4 Cordy 0.1
so Young had more of these contests and won more.
So At worst Young seems to be comparable to (Gardner who is impressing everyone with his improvement this year) and O’Brien (who has impressed everyone as a great pick up this year).
Actually, the one who surprised me in those stats was Sweet. He scored very highly in some categories. Thanks for sharing the link.
Lewis Young has lost 36.8% of defencive contests, Gardner 27.3%. I'm not sure how many each neutralises versus wins. Anyway, that's ~30% more losses for Young.
On average Young loses 1.2 per game, Gardner 0.7 per game. That's ~53% more.
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17-05-2022, 09:57 PM
#119
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Lewis Young has lost 36.8% of defencive contests, Gardner 27.3%. I'm not sure how many each neutralises versus wins. Anyway, that's ~30% more losses for Young.
On average Young loses 1.2 per game, Gardner 0.7 per game. That's ~53% more.
Now you've gone done it.
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17-05-2022, 10:11 PM
#120
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
jeemak
Lewis Young has lost 36.8% of defencive contests, Gardner 27.3%. I'm not sure how many each neutralises versus wins. Anyway, that's ~30% more losses for Young.
On average Young loses 1.2 per game, Gardner 0.7 per game. That's ~53% more.
Keath is 18% for comparison
May and Logue comfortably the best 2 in the league despite bring woefully undersized (sorry BAD nothing nasty meant by it)
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