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05-07-2022, 01:59 PM
#346
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Axe Man
There was no point drafting Parker if we were going to cut him after just one season. He was always going to take some time despite being a bit older as he hasn't played a heap of footy. Injuries have also held him back. VFL watchers have seen something in him so he gets another year.
No way McComb isn't on the list next year. He is limited but we need depth and he has already played 10 games. There is an argument to be had about whether he should have been drafted in the first place but it's a moot point now.
Garcia gets another year to see if his body will allow him a clear run at it.
Raak is only taking a category B spot I believe so may be worth keeping if he has shown enough promise.
I get it, but also we’re going to need to turn some spots over. Who goes?
I guess we could put a line through Cordy and Schache (I’d keep Josh however), Martin… our tall depth takes a hit. Maybe that’s ok?
I don’t get McComb. Surely there’s blokes who need an AFL lifeline or even guys who are about to retire that’d be better if we need depth. He’s not a 19 year old.
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06-07-2022, 11:44 AM
#347
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Copying and pasting this from BigFooty, as always, grain of salt level shit.
Word from a pretty reliable source on the Bulldogs Discord group is as follows, but as everything of this nature at this time of year
TAKE IT ALL WITH A GRAIN OF SALT:
-Stefan Martin has pretty much retired at this point, isn't expected to play another senior game this year unless both Sweet/English can't play, is staying on in a ruck-coaching job
-Recruitment team was in WA for an extended period last week, met with several player managers from both WCE and Freo, we are chasing a combo including McGovern, Lobb, Logue, Pierce and Barass, trying to shake a pair of defenders from their clubs.
-Club is backing in English to be our number one ruckman long term, beyond the two years he just signed, will not go chasing another number 1 ruck again
-Club knows we have defensive issues, big focus within the four walls
-Rohan Smith is expected to step down as our senior assistant / defensive coach role this year, replacement unknown, internal pressure building, higher ups not happy with how this season has gone.
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06-07-2022, 12:04 PM
#348
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
Jason Johannisen: 2022
Toby McLean: 2022
Josh Dunkley: 2022
Rhylee West: 2022
Alex Keath: 2022
Josh Schache: 2022
Bailey Smith: 2022
Louis Butler: 2022
Riley Garcia: 2022
Zaine Cordy: 2022
Taylor Duryea: 2022
Mitch Wallis: 2022
Stefan Martin : 2022
Charlie Parker: 2022 (Rookie)
Robbie McComb: 2022 (Rookie)
Cody Raak: 2022 (Rookie)
I’d be moving on all the guys bolded, 1 year contracts for Keath, Schache, McLean, Doc, and depending on how we go in trade period, Cordy could get 1 year as depth. If we get another KPD in trader (which we better!) then Cordy goes.
I reckon Dunkley will leave. JJ prob gets 2 years. Smith apparently getting 2 years. West I’d offer 3 years.
Maybe that’s cutting too deep but I don’t see any of the guys bolded doing enough to help the team and we’d may as well put on 3 rookie KPP or Rucks and seeing how we go using those spots for longer term prospects.
We keep one of Cordy or Schache for depth I'm leaning towards Cordy.
Garcia is a keep for sure.
I suspect we lose a player or two which helps free up list spots.
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06-07-2022, 12:07 PM
#349
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Mofra
We keep one of Cordy or Schache for depth I'm leaning towards Cordy.
Garcia is a keep for sure.
I suspect we lose a player or two which helps free up list spots.
We need to lose three players per AFL rules.
Martin
Wallis
?
Who else? Butler?
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06-07-2022, 12:19 PM
#350
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Vred
Copying and pasting this from BigFooty, as always, grain of salt level shit.
That all sounds amazingly reasonable. Although surprised we would be aiming for x2 KPDs. West Coast need to blow the whole thing up and start again so there has to be deals to made there.
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06-07-2022, 12:20 PM
#351
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We need to lose three players per AFL rules.
Martin
Wallis
?
Who else? Butler?
I think those 3 are almost certainties.
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06-07-2022, 12:27 PM
#352
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
McGovern is on what $1.2m a year with some bullshit third party mining deal that I assume we’d also have to get akin compensation for, and has been more exposed by 6-6-6 than any other player in the game. Would not be my first choice.
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06-07-2022, 03:42 PM
#353
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
McGovern is on what $1.2m a year with some bullshit third party mining deal that I assume we’d also have to get akin compensation for, and has been more exposed by 6-6-6 than any other player in the game. Would not be my first choice.
I reckon he'd be good for us. 6/6/6 came in in 2019 and he made All Australian that year. Since then WC have largely sucked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_All-Australian_team
He could be a Brian Lake type move for us. I like it. I'm glad we're trying to kick over every rock available. I'm also totally 100% sure given the post came from BF that it's legit. So, after our remarkable charge to the 2022 flag, 2023 is a gimme with a strong defence in place.
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06-07-2022, 03:52 PM
#354
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
McGovern is on what $1.2m a year with some bullshit third party mining deal that I assume we’d also have to get akin compensation for, and has been more exposed by 6-6-6 than any other player in the game. Would not be my first choice.
With our Ballarat connection surely we can get Sovereign Hill on board!
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06-07-2022, 03:52 PM
#355
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
MrMahatma
I reckon he'd be good for us. 6/6/6 came in in 2019 and he made All Australian that year. Since then WC have largely sucked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_All-Australian_team
He could be a Brian Lake type move for us. I like it. I'm glad we're trying to kick over every rock available. I'm also totally 100% sure given the post came from BF that it's legit. So, after our remarkable charge to the 2022 flag, 2023 is a gimme with a strong defence in place.
I mean he would probably be good, but for $1.2m dollars? Who is he Chelsea Clinton?
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06-07-2022, 04:58 PM
#356
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We need to lose three players per AFL rules.
Martin
Wallis
?
Who else? Butler?
Potentially Dunkley and/or a mid-tier player (pre-agency or OOC)
Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers
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07-07-2022, 10:03 AM
#357
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Happy Days
I mean he would probably be good, but for $1.2m dollars? Who is he Chelsea Clinton?
Sure. That'd be overs. Is he actually on that much and would WE have to actually pay him that much per year? I guess the devil's in the detail.
I'd love to have him in the team for a few years.
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07-07-2022, 10:14 AM
#358
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dep...185e2366984d67
According to Colin Young, Logue's manager we have not touched base regarding trading for Logue.
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07-07-2022, 11:06 AM
#359
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
bornadog
We need to lose three players per AFL rules.
Martin
Wallis
?
Who else? Butler?
If we can't delist 3 or more players after our performances this year then we are going nowhere. We need to just turn over those players who we know won't make it and have been given plenty of opportunity - McComb, R Smith, Schache, Wallis, Martin and Butler. If O'Brien didn't have a 3 year deal i would go him as well. They need to change up asst coaching and get some experience. Noble would be a good get to have back. Guys like Rohan Smith have had their time. I feel we need to change it up.
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07-07-2022, 11:23 AM
#360
Re: List Managment thread (For 2022)
Originally Posted by
Bullies
If we can't delist 3 or more players after our performances this year then we are going nowhere. We need to just turn over those players who we know won't make it and have been given plenty of opportunity - McComb, R Smith, Schache, Wallis, Martin and Butler. If O'Brien didn't have a 3 year deal i would go him as well. They need to change up asst coaching and get some experience. Noble would be a good get to have back. Guys like Rohan Smith have had their time. I feel we need to change it up.
McComb is a rookie as is Roarke (has contract till end 2023 )
No thanks to Noble.
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