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08-07-2023, 12:41 PM
#226
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Initially Bevo didn't want to play Jamarra because he thought with Bruce out there'd be too much defensive focus on him to be effective. Now I almost feel like the opposite is true after seeing the game live. Jamarra is the focal point. He starts as the deepest forward. He directs players and the structure. He leads and creates the space. We look to him first. Compared to when this was Naughton's role, when we don't kick to Jamarra the other players (Naughton, Weightman) are typically in better positions (especially Naughton) than they would have been in the past because of the work he does and his natural forward nous.
I really thought Naughton's contests were very efficient yesterday. It looks so much better when he's 1v1 or crashing a 1v1 contest as the 3rd man up with a clear run than when we're just kicking to packs hoping he takes a screamer. It seems a much better use of his talents and a much better way to hide his weaknesses as a forward. He probably got just as many goals as he would have being the FF but from much fewer f50 entries directed to him. Jamarra and Weightman as natural forwards are doing a lot to make our forward line look functional for probably the first time since Bruce got injured so just wanted to shout out what I see as a nice side effect of Marra's emergence.
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08-07-2023, 12:45 PM
#227
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Initially Bevo didn't want to play Jamarra because he thought with Bruce out there'd be too much defensive focus on him to be effective. Now I almost feel like the opposite is true after seeing the game live. Jamarra is the focal point. He starts as the deepest forward. He directs players and the structure. He leads and creates the space. We look to him first. Compared to when this was Naughton's role, when we don't kick to Jamarra the other players (Naughton, Weightman) are typically in better positions (especially Naughton) than they would have been in the past because of the work he does and his natural forward nous.
I really thought Naughton's contests were very efficient yesterday. It looks so much better when he's 1v1 or crashing a 1v1 contest as the 3rd man up with a clear run than when we're just kicking to packs hoping he takes a screamer. It seems a much better use of his talents and a much better way to hide his weaknesses as a forward. He probably got just as many goals as he would have being the FF but from much fewer f50 entries directed to him. Jamarra and Weightman as natural forwards are doing a lot to make our forward line look functional for probably the first time since Bruce got injured so just wanted to shout out what I see as a nice side effect of Marra's emergence.
Agree with all that.
However, Naughton had a massive win for him personally last night as Moore went to Marra. The best defender went to Marra for a change. What did this mean? Well Naughton looked unstoppable. Was marking everything. He looked like he was going to rip the game apart. So then they made the switch. Moore went to Naughton.
Then Marra started to look more dangerous. Marra was unsighted early when Moore was on him.
It is a luxury to have two dangerous forwards and that is why Naughton should play forward and not back.
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08-07-2023, 12:55 PM
#228
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
I made a similar observation last week when Ugle-Hagan was the deepest forward against Fremantle.
It’s his forward line now.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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08-07-2023, 01:24 PM
#229
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
JUH, Naughton in their prime
Then Croft and Darcy
If we can find another medium -size forward (fristch/Miocheck type) it be a terrifying fwd line in a few years time
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08-07-2023, 02:05 PM
#230
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
Agree with all that.
However, Naughton had a massive win for him personally last night as Moore went to Marra. The best defender went to Marra for a change. What did this mean? Well Naughton looked unstoppable. Was marking everything. He looked like he was going to rip the game apart. So then they made the switch. Moore went to Naughton.
It is a luxury to have two dangerous forwards and that is why Naughton should play forward and not back.
Moore's part of the C'wood zone was in front of goal, Murphy picked up in pockets and further out. Intercept defenders anticipate the ball rather than worrying about the individual marking forward. Moore picked up whoever was in his zone.
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08-07-2023, 02:09 PM
#231
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
macca
JUH, Naughton in their prime
Then Croft and Darcy
If we can find another medium -size forward (fristch/Miocheck type) it be a terrifying fwd line in a few years time
Weightman plays more like a medium than a small. We need a goal kicking crummer.
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08-07-2023, 02:21 PM
#232
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Marra gave Moore trouble in the second quarter.
Both Naughty and Marra gave their key backs a bit of a rinse.
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08-07-2023, 02:23 PM
#233
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Marra gave Moore trouble in the second quarter.
Both Naughty and Marra gave their key backs a bit of a rinse.
Just goes to show that Collingwood could be in trouble if a team has some big forwards and they can curtail their running speedsters off the backline. I think Port are the best team at the moment.
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08-07-2023, 03:04 PM
#234
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Yep , 2 bIg forwards who can lead cause most team problem
Port: Dixon , Marshall and Flynn rotate
Geelong : Hawkins and Cameron
Maybe Adelaide when it clicks : Riley Thilthorpe and Walker
Are the ones come to mind
Last edited by macca; 09-07-2023 at 05:48 PM.
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09-07-2023, 01:19 AM
#235
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
The Bulldogs Bite
Marra gave Moore trouble in the second quarter.
Both Naughty and Marra gave their key backs a bit of a rinse.
Perspective. Naughton was quiet in Q3 but otherwise was a constant threat and goaled in the other 3. Ugle-Hagan was prominent in Q2 kicking both his goals but, apart from the behind early in Q3, did little otherwise.
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09-07-2023, 10:11 AM
#236
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
D Mitchell
Perspective. Naughton was quiet in Q3 but otherwise was a constant threat and goaled in the other 3. Ugle-Hagan was prominent in Q2 kicking both his goals but, apart from the behind early in Q3, did little otherwise.
The second half of the 3rd quarter, the ball rarely went down Naughton's end
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09-07-2023, 10:25 AM
#237
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
macca
JUH, Naughton in their prime
Then Croft and Darcy
If we can find another medium -size forward (fristch/Miocheck type) it be a terrifying fwd line in a few years time
JUH is a long way from his prime .. it’s scary
Bring back the biff
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09-07-2023, 05:03 PM
#238
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
Originally Posted by
bornadog
The second half of the 3rd quarter, the ball rarely went down Naughton's end
That's probably right. I posted Perspective, not criticism. The phrase "give up" isn't in Naughton's vocabulary.
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06-11-2023, 01:48 PM
#239
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
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06-11-2023, 02:02 PM
#240
Re: Welcome Jamarra Ugle-Hagan to the Western Bulldogs
How do publications like zero hanger survive? All they do is mine other websites and media outlets for content.
Slap a headline and “editor” byline on it like it’s some sort of original content.
More of an In Bruges guy?