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24-03-2024, 10:22 AM
#931
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Originally Posted by
jeemak
You talking to me Willis?
In general
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24-03-2024, 10:22 AM
#932
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Consultants are good if the project engaging them defines a clear scope for their use and doesn't creep outside of that.
If you think poor planning and management is a contractor / consultant issue you're doing it wrong.
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24-03-2024, 10:23 AM
#933
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
And to stay on thread.
AFL media is for teenagers.
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24-03-2024, 10:26 AM
#934
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Felling pretty attacked here as someone that's spent their entire adult workforce career as a 'consultant'
Can't say I've ever really suggested a solution to anything though. Normally I just make stuff they want or do a job they don't know how to do.
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24-03-2024, 10:28 AM
#935
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Completely wrong about all consultants. Consultants bring their own expertise into an organisation, usually expertise that is either not available internally or as a independent for a review of operations and many other reasons.
The club brought in a consultant, and the restructure happened.
I run a consultancy that operates in the cost reduction area and usually organisations that need my expertise are those that don't have the internal skills or, they don't have the time to complete a review.
As for so called media experts, as has been mentioned already, they don't know the inner workings of a club, the game plan, the players situation eg injury or not, and seem to all just spout the same thing. Yesterday I was flipping the stations in the car and heard Malthouse carrying on about Naughton to the backline. The other commentator said, is it because Bevo is stubborn? Malthouse backed in Bevo and mentioned various things on why he hasn't moved Naughton.
To me, it is pathetic the way the media carryon when a team is losing - very tiresome.
No offence. But of course you are going to say that. You view is going to be biased one way, as is mine.
On the club restructure due to the feedback from a consultant. We don't know whether that is a good advice yet. There is also lots of senior people in that club who should have their finger on the pulse. Why did they need a 70 year old Peter Jackson to make structural changes? Either they are not very good at what they do or politically they wanted someone else to do it as either they were to weak to do it themselves or or wanted the cover of an "expert". It wasn't exactly rocket science what he reccomended.
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24-03-2024, 10:29 AM
#936
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Consultants are fine if you don't choose generalists to do a specialist's job.
I wasn't pissing on consultants with my post by the way, in fact, the opposite. I had a negative view of consultants until I became one, and then I just refined my view to generalists who have no expertise outside of being consultants. It took fifteen years on supply side before I could even think about getting a senior con role at the firm I joined.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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24-03-2024, 10:34 AM
#937
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
So are we shitcanning consultants, afl media or the general punter?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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24-03-2024, 10:35 AM
#938
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Originally Posted by
azabob
So are we shitcanning consultants, afl media or the general punter?
I think it's Choose Your Own Adventure at this point Az.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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24-03-2024, 10:37 AM
#939
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
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24-03-2024, 10:37 AM
#940
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
No offence. But of course you are going to say that. You view is going to be biased one way, as is mine.
On the club restructure due to the feedback from a consultant. We don't know whether that is a good advice yet. There is also lots of senior people in that club who should have their finger on the pulse. Why did they need a 70 year old Peter Jackson to make structural changes? Either they are not very good at what they do or politically they wanted someone else to do it as either they were to weak to do it themselves or or wanted the cover of an "expert". It wasn't exactly rocket science what he reccomended.
This is embarrassing.
If you read the fine print of his report it actually had a section on how to leverage rocket science to stop our forwards running into each other in lieu of poor coaching/ leadership.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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24-03-2024, 10:39 AM
#941
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Originally Posted by
Topdog
#NotAllConsultants
Clubhouse leader.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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24-03-2024, 10:41 AM
#942
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Originally Posted by
jeemak
This is embarrassing.
If you read the fine print of his report it actually had a section on how to leverage rocket science to stop our forwards running into each other in lieu of poor coaching/ leadership.
Ha lol
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24-03-2024, 10:47 AM
#943
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
I've worked for a couple of companies that have used a variety of consultants with very mixed results.
They've made and broken many careers for wannabe executives so it's certainly buyer beware.
Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
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24-03-2024, 10:51 AM
#944
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
Chicken Twisties are better than cheese Twisties.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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24-03-2024, 10:55 AM
#945
Re: Damien Barrett what's his agenda ?
I'm going to start a trade Cody Weightman thread if this doesn't stop going pear shaped.
I'll even put out an expression of interest for consultants to help me execute it.
Last edited by jeemak; 24-03-2024 at 11:04 AM.
Reason: Bulldog Tragpants.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.