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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Not the be all and end all, though the stats show Garcia is more than matching output.

    https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&fid1=S&fid2=S

    The only thing I can think of is the MC feeling Gallagher is a better forward runner with the football, and wanting to develop an inside outside midfielder to compliment other midfielder characteristics.

    It might also be that Garcia is actually performing his role really well and the coaches are happy with his output as a high forward. It's not an easy role to play.
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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Big fan of both but I reckon Garcia has more composure than Gags at this stage would love to see him get a crack inside agree.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozza View Post
    Agree and can't understand it overly.

    Think Garcia can be really impactful. Hits the contest really low and hard and has good pace. Would love for him to get more opportunities around the ball.
    This is how our fringe players are positioned in AFL.

    Played out of position in AFL than VFL.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by jeemak View Post
    Not the be all and end all, though the stats show Garcia is more than matching output.

    https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&fid1=S&fid2=S

    The only thing I can think of is the MC feeling Gallagher is a better forward runner with the football, and wanting to develop an inside outside midfielder to compliment other midfielder characteristics.

    It might also be that Garcia is actually performing his role really well and the coaches are happy with his output as a high forward. It's not an easy role to play.
    Which I guess is the point of the thread.

    Gallagher is being played in positions where he is able to have a bigger impact and still Garcia is shading him.

    Understand Garcia is playing the role he is quite well, but feel he's being under-utilized which might be to our detriment.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis View Post
    Which I guess is the point of the thread.

    Gallagher is being played in positions where he is able to have a bigger impact and still Garcia is shading him.

    Understand Garcia is playing the role he is quite well, but feel he's being under-utilized which might be to our detriment.
    The team dynamic worked well against GWS with both playing their role.

    I really liked using Gallagher to curb Tom Green. We haven't done enough of that.
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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Is it coming down to simply athletic profile? To my poorly trained eye Gallagher looks more of an athlete and covers the ground better.

    Is Gallagher playing the Bailey Smith role? High half forward, winger role with stints in the middle.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Is it coming down to simply athletic profile? To my poorly trained eye Gallagher looks more of an athlete and covers the ground better.

    Is Gallagher playing the Bailey Smith role? High half forward, winger role with stints in the middle.
    Looks like he is playing the Smith role, although Smith needs more time in the middle.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Looks like he is playing the Smith role, although Smith needs more time in the middle.

    Will Gallagher go to Heeney Tomorrow?
    If he's going to play a negating role I'd suggest Warner would be a better matchup for him. Heeney's strength might be too much, and can impact the game forward to break a tag similar to Bont.

    To the OP, 100% Garcia should be given more midfield time, and Gallagher is lucky to be given an opportunity in the senior team let alone at centre bounces. Can only think that the coaches rate Gags' two way running, something that is difficult for all of us to assess without the GPS data and behind the play cameras that the coaches access in review.
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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorlibo View Post
    If he's going to play a negating role I'd suggest Warner would be a better matchup for him. Heeney's strength might be too much, and can impact the game forward to break a tag similar to Bont.

    To the OP, 100% Garcia should be given more midfield time, and Gallagher is lucky to be given an opportunity in the senior team let alone at centre bounces. Can only think that the coaches rate Gags' two way running, something that is difficult for all of us to assess without the GPS data and behind the play cameras that the coaches access in review.
    That's a huge difference in how we watch the games on TV or at the ground in most cases, versus how the coaching teams review them.

    Some coaches feel it's pointless reviewing the game without the end to end view.
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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by bornadog View Post
    Looks like he is playing the Smith role, although Smith needs more time in the middle.

    Will Gallagher go to Heeney Tomorrow?
    Bevo mentioned Bont and Richards having the size and aerial ability to negate Heeney when he drifts forward.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorlibo View Post
    If he's going to play a negating role I'd suggest Warner would be a better matchup for him. Heeney's strength might be too much, and can impact the game forward to break a tag similar to Bont.
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    Bevo mentioned Bont and Richards having the size and aerial ability to negate Heeney when he drifts forward.
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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Interesting thoughts Mantis

    It seems to me that the reason Garcia has looked so good in the games is because of all his midfield experience at the state level - he's a good decision maker, and more than almost anyone reads the ball off hands, and naturally gets to the fall of the ball

    Id like to see him get some more rotations and chances.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Would love to see Garcia be given a licence to play on (and off) Gulden.

    Agree with the OP. Also a big fan of Garcia and I've been impressed with his maturity this season with ball in hand. Much more composed, willing to draw an opposition player to create overlap, able to hold onto the ball a split second longer to make the better decision etc.

    I'd hate to lose him.
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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    My guess would be that old flexiblity mantra is why they seem to favour Gags. He has the ability to play wing and mid to a decent level, Where Garcia is more a pure Mid playing out of position.

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    Re: Garcia v Gallagher

    Quote Originally Posted by azabob View Post
    Is it coming down to simply athletic profile? To my poorly trained eye Gallagher looks more of an athlete and covers the ground better.

    Is Gallagher playing the Bailey Smith role? High half forward, winger role with stints in the middle.
    Gag's kicking has better penetration. Garcia's tend to be up and under loopers.

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