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24-05-2024, 03:32 PM
#391
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
If we move it in fast on turn over and the swans scramble a stoppage that's a swans win. Then they r50 was what i was thinking. It's not exclusively us forcing a stoppage.
ummmm....
You can only score from 3 things:
Kick-in
Turnover
Stop
So the Swans forcing a stop in OUR f50 is GOOD by us...it means we have a contest in scoring position...what we make of it, that's challenge b. Remember, it takes 2-teams for a stoppage so I guess if you're saying our delivery inside 50 isn't what it should be, I'd say 'COOL'. But if you had to choose between a Swans intercept possession and a stoppage, what would you choose? Scrambling to force a stoppage inside f50 is GOOD.
Now - should we have made more of those stoppages? Probs, yeah...but that's part 3:
1/. Get the inside 50 (tick)
2/. Win it or halve it (win it or halve it - Tick - we HALVED IT).
3/. Win or halve the stop...etc.
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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24-05-2024, 03:34 PM
#392
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
azabob
Yep. Spot on. Now please explain the difference between a possession and a disposal - i'm still confused from the ESPN explanation on their podcast from a few weeks ago.
A possession is something you WIN - contested or uncontested.
A disposal is something that happens.
eg.
A kick in from a point is a disposal.
A soccer off the ground marked by the oppo is an INEFFECTIVE DISPOSAL (soccers only become disposals when they result in a subsequent stat)
A kick following on from a mark is a POSSESSION.
What should I tell her? She's going to ask.
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24-05-2024, 03:40 PM
#393
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
mjp
A possession is something you WIN - contested or uncontested.
A disposal is something that happens.
eg.
A kick in from a point is a disposal.
A soccer off the ground marked by the oppo is an INEFFECTIVE DISPOSAL (soccers only become disposals when they result in a subsequent stat)
A kick following on from a mark is a POSSESSION.
Is there a way punters can access the champion data stats for a cost? I'd love to access it via an api and create custom queries.
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24-05-2024, 03:54 PM
#394
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
jeemak
I don't understand the purpose of the weekly crackdowns.
Someone at AFL House says let's take any nuance out of this area of the game so we can **** it up a bit more for a few weeks and then go back to how it was before.
Brilliant!!!
Remember in, I think 2020 or 2021, where we had like 6 or 7 weeks of really strict holding the ball interpretation where pretty much everything was htb?? Then 2 weeks before finals started it completely vanished.
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24-05-2024, 05:14 PM
#395
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
Swans fans. In the Bulldog reserved seats. Creating conflict. I said this last time. I?m OK with them sitting there. But when you are in the middle of Bulldog fans, why choose to antagonise people. Unnecessary, stupid and dangerous. A few there tonight deserved a little violence, even though I don?t condone that.
My sister who sits in the same seat surrounded by Bulldog fans had a loud-mouth Swans fan sitting behind them who laughed every time we missed a goal (which was bad enough). A woman turned around and told him to pipe down. He moved away after half time.
I can't go to games so don't have a seat but apparently members are sent emails asking if they want to "sell" their seat back to the club if they're not going to a game so it can be reallocated to an opposition fan.
Surely no one likes that?
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24-05-2024, 05:16 PM
#396
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
Bevo said the defenders played for all of the second half, no breaks, as did English. Heroic effort.
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24-05-2024, 05:18 PM
#397
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Is there a way punters can access the champion data stats for a cost? I'd love to access it via an api and create custom queries.
Here you go GG, the glossary of terms from Champion data
https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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24-05-2024, 05:19 PM
#398
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
You forgot to send your invoice!
More of an In Bruges guy?
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24-05-2024, 05:19 PM
#399
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
angelopetraglia
Swans fans. In the Bulldog reserved seats. Creating conflict. I said this last time. I?m OK with them sitting there. But when you are in the middle of Bulldog fans, why choose to antagonise people. Unnecessary, stupid and dangerous. A few there tonight deserved a little violence, even though I don?t condone that.
I am in aisle 31 and there were Swans fans taking up vacant seats
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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24-05-2024, 05:20 PM
#400
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
azabob
You forgot to send your invoice!
It's in the mail
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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24-05-2024, 05:28 PM
#401
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
I am in aisle 31 and there were Swans fans taking up vacant seats
I'm in aisle 32 and there are always opposition supporters in that area.
More of an In Bruges guy?
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24-05-2024, 05:31 PM
#402
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
azabob
I'm in aisle 32 and there are always opposition supporters in that area.
Level 2 ? if so Next time say hello
FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
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24-05-2024, 05:44 PM
#403
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
Curly5
Bevo said the defenders played for all of the second half, no breaks, as did English. Heroic effort.
Jones and Keath with 100%
Dale & Bramble with 94 and 92%
Williams with 91%
Duryea & Daniel with 89 and 88%
English had 91% TOG as well, Marra had 96%
Swans highest TOG was Gulden was 97% and next highest was Florent with 91%
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24-05-2024, 06:36 PM
#404
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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24-05-2024, 06:45 PM
#405
Re: Bulldogs V Swans - Round 11, 23/5/24 Marvel Stadium 7:30PM AEST
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Originally Posted by
Happy Days
Gulden 97% is psychotic.
Not suprising. But he covered the most distance on the night 16.2km. Next was Bramble 15.3km, CD 15.3km, Keath 14.9km, Florent 14.9km.