Stringer Trade Worth

[bornadog]

Thanks Ozza. I don't post much but enjoy reading the full gamut of opinions from the diehards more than ever.

Well thought out Gia, enjoyed the read and couldn't disagree at all.

The only way Stringer can stay in my opinion is he has to convince Bevo he will do all that is asked of him, on and off the field.

[mitch0418]

I think the Bulldogs have played this one very nicely. It’s market manipulation (i.e. stock bashing) at its finest. In Bevo we trust.



Since the whispers started, the Dogs haven’t refuted them. In fact they’ve been very public with a few carefully selected facts and quite positive with the language surrounding the facts. Jake’s enduring an existential life crisis and an associated lack of professionalism towards his football. They’ve asked for him to commit to his football and the ethos of the club, and he’s fallen short on those expectations. No single player is bigger than the club. The situation isn’t irretrievable, but we’ve had a gutful and the ball is in his court.



By making their intentions to trade him public, the Dogs are effectively driving down Jake’s value for his own good. Jake might think that he’s worth $1 million a year, but in doing their due diligence, other clubs will quickly realise there’s probably a bit more to it and he’s a liability. Clubs might be willing to take on that liability, but not for a first round draft pick and certainly not for $1m per year. Sure his manager will shop him around and talk him up, but at the end of the day he’s contracted and a player of amazing potential to the aspirations of the Dogs fortunes in 2018 and beyond.



I’ve heard the “AA player, premiership player, former pick 5” arguments when it comes to his trade value, but it all means very little when you’re this on the nose (What was Ben Cousins worth in 2005 vs 2007?). If there isn’t a good offer for him, he’ll hit rock bottom and find himself unwanted both within and outside the club. If he nominates a club who then offer below expectations value, it’ll hurt his pride and the Dogs will stand up for Jake and let the football world know he’s worth more than what is being offered, restart negotiations and welcome him home with open arms.



If he stays, the Dogs will have better leverage to get the most out of him. He’s got 6 months to get back on track physically and professionally or he’ll spend the year in VFL. If he’s bitter about how this has played out, he’ll still need to address the professionalism and play some good football for the Dogs to raise his stock up again. If he plays some good football, the Dogs will offer him a contract extension. Otherwise he’ll find himself uncontracted and not worth a great deal.



In no way am I certain which way this’ll go, but It’ll take a high draft pick (I’m thinking 11 from Dons or better) to prise him away or else he stays. If he goes, we head to the draft with two first round draft picks a year after winning a flag, a strong position to be in. If he goes, we’ve off-loaded a liability and can refocus getting the culture right.

As for addressing the party culture and the players who may have thought it would just happen in 2017, this has served to act as a wake-up call. The boys would have had their exit interviews, told no individual is bigger than the club and been given clear instruction to turn up for pre-season in shape and ready to go. Libba has already come out and said he’ll start pre-season 2 weeks early. Job’s right.



Bring on the trade period!

Great post. I've been thinking along the same lines but wouldn't have been able to articulate as well as this. I was watching Jake and Paul Connors during that live forum and it seemed to me that it was purely Paul's idea to get Jake on the panel so he could attempt to up his trade value. At the same time however Paul Connors was sitting on both sides of the fence as he refused to say anything negative about the Dogs and a few times mentioned the club has handled discussions appropriately. Unfortunately for both of them Bob (who is obviously widely respected within AFL circles) came out yesterday and disputed everything Jake said which would leave nothing but doubt now for potential recruiting clubs.

I'm pretty comfortable as long as the club stands firm and only accepts any pick within the top 10. I doubt any club will offer that now so wouldn't be surprised if Jake stays for another year leaving him with the only option of pulling his finger out or spending the year in the VFL which further deflates his worth.

Interesting few weeks ahead.

[Cyberdoggie]

I'd be squarely focused on North's pick 4 as our number 1 priority. They have the cap, are seemingly desperate for a big name trade and Scott will want to rise back up the ladder.

That would leave us with pick 4 & 9. I'd use 4 on the best kid available (turned out ok last time) and use 9 to bring in a gun established forward. Don't know who, but I'd be throwing big money at someone to shake them loose.

They also might have a ruckman that wants out

[bulldogsman]

They also might have a ruckman that wants out

That's my concern, Goldstein will be included in the deal.

[bornadog]

That's my concern, Goldstein will be included in the deal.

Rumour: Apparently there is another ruckman that wants out

[ledge]

Rumour: Apparently there is another ruckman that wants out

Not Daw I hope.

[bornadog]

Not Daw I hope.

I don't think it is Daw

[bulldogtragic]

I don't think it is Daw

Brown, he could be a ruck.

[Webby]

Preuss?

[bornadog]

Preuss?

From SEN this morning:

Pruess could be a target for the likes of the Western Bulldogs and Brisbane, particularly if Stefan Martin returns to Victoria, and former Melbourne captain Garry Lyon believes if Goldstein and Daw stay at the Roos, he has no alternative but to move on.“He’s got to go, doesn’t he Braydon Preuss?” Lyon said.
“If that’s the line that the Kangaroos are taking, if they’re going to keep Todd and Majak, then Braydon has got to get on the move.”

[ledge]

Why would you keep Daw over him ?

[ledge]

I would have thought Goldstein and Daw would be gone before him.

[Rocket Science]

From SEN this morning:

They're truly just heaping verbal diarrohea upon verbal diarrohea.

Pruess is clearly their annointed #1 ruck. Only a twit would rank Goldstein or Daw ahead of him.

[macca]

PReuss had a pretty good start to the season , what happened in the second half? Was he injured or they chose to give Daw thenumber 1 ruck role ?

[Rocket Science]

Brown, he could be a ruck.

I could tolerate Stringer running around for them if it meant BBB doing likewise for us.