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Re: Round 23
All good points Oz. Very devilish.
In the end it really doesn't matter I guess.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Ozza
Devils advocate.....
It gives the league the flexibility to schedule Hawthorn v Dogs on a Friday night now that they know it will be Hodge (and probably Bob and Boyd's) last game, rather than it potentially end up on a 4:40pm Saturday arvo fixture or something like that.
Similarly they now know that the Tigers\Saints game will be one of big consequence for finals spots - and potentially Riewoldt and Montagna's last game - and maybe it gets a Saturday night slot.
I realize it is not necessary in terms of fairness and breaks before finals - but still gives the league the opportunity to showcase the biggest 'events' of the weekend at the best times.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the important games, or the farewell games are in the bad timeslots - then they get criticized for that too.
Counter devil to that is why not do it for round 22-21-20 19-18 etc etc. Every week there are important matches not on FTA and you just live with it.
Most people won't criticise the AFL for not predicting what games will be important in round 23.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Counter devil to that is why not do it for round 22-21-20 19-18 etc etc. Every week there are important matches not on FTA and you just live with it.
Most people won't criticise the AFL for not predicting what games will be important in round 23.
Would you have a bye in between each round?
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Round 23
Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Flamethrower
Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
Where would you play the matches?
Only one game played at the MCG and one game played at Etihad isn't going to please the AFL.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Would you have a bye in between each round?
Not a bye, an unset fixture so you can make sure the important games are on TV.
And I wouldn't do it was more my point
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
hujsh
Not a bye, an unset fixture so you can make sure the important games are on TV.
And I wouldn't do it was more my point
Yeah, I was just extracting the urine. If we did have byes the season would run a couple of months longer.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Flamethrower
Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
Percentage apparently takes care of any manipulation that may occur.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Flamethrower
Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
Originally Posted by
ClothesBootsMotorcycle
Where would you play the matches?
Only one game played at the MCG and one game played at Etihad isn't going to please the AFL.
Etihad
MCG
Adelaide Oval
Gabba
SCG
Metricon
Spotless
Subiaco
Kardinia Park
You're basically handing a big "*!*!*!*! you" to all bar three Victorian clubs.
It's a great big no from me.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
westdog54
Etihad
MCG
Adelaide Oval
Gabba
SCG
Metricon
Spotless
Subiaco
Kardinia Park
You're basically handing a big "*!*!*!*! you" to all bar three Victorian clubs.
It's a great big no from me.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Whitten Oval
Yes I would love that
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Ozza
Devils advocate.....
It gives the league the flexibility to schedule Hawthorn v Dogs on a Friday night now that they know it will be Hodge (and probably Bob and Boyd's) last game, rather than it potentially end up on a 4:40pm Saturday arvo fixture or something like that.
Similarly they now know that the Tigers\Saints game will be one of big consequence for finals spots - and potentially Riewoldt and Montagna's last game - and maybe it gets a Saturday night slot.
I realize it is not necessary in terms of fairness and breaks before finals - but still gives the league the opportunity to showcase the biggest 'events' of the weekend at the best times.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the important games, or the farewell games are in the bad timeslots - then they get criticized for that too.
All it gives is the chance for the AFL to garner even more unwarranted media exposure and column inches. We survived perfectly well until a couple of years ago without a floating fixture, and the only reason we have the bye is because the code is completely beholden to the gambling companies, who do not respond kindly to mass player resting in R23.
Now that we have the bye, the floating fixture is not needed at all IMO.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Flamethrower
Considering how close the ladder is this year, perhaps it's time for the AFL to adopt the EPL way and play all nine fixtures at the same time Saturday afternoon to stop manipulation of results by the teams. (Leave that for the AFL and their umpires).
Cool idea but would be tough to implement nowadays with most of the suburban grounds no longer used.
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Re: Round 23
Originally Posted by
Twodogs
Yeah, I was just extracting the urine. If we did have byes the season would run a couple of months longer.
arg
Thought that might be the case as soon as I posted. Now I shall never recover from my shame
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Re: Round 23
Because the TV networks would hate it, the AFEL would never start all R23 games simultaneously. The only reasonable argument I can see for retaining a floating draw for R23 would be to at least start the 2 or 3 games that direcly impact each other at the same time. So if 2 teams sitting 8th and 9th are on the same points with similar percentage, they could be both put on Saturday night (for example).