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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
bulldogsthru&thru
The only team I have hatred for (at present) is essendon. Arrogant, cheating scum.
I would add Carlton to the most hated but Essendon number 1
Originally Posted by
The bulldog tragician
Yes, I need to remind myself of how obnoxious they can be. The ?fans? who booed Brad Johnson in his last, sad, hobbling game. The group who beat on the bonnet of my car and rocked it as I attempted to leave the mcg car park. They can be hideous BUT Bombre fans are the worst and Crows fans extremely obnoxious too. They share a characteristic I don?t understand, that after they win, it?s not sufficient to be happy, but they want to somehow rub it in. I?ve never had that impulse, though if I ever, after a Dogs victory, came across the Adelaide fan (middle aged woman) who randomly came up to my friend and I and our crying children in 97 and waved her scarf in the face of the kids, I?d make an exception.
Carlton supporters did that to my 6 year old and her cousin one day as we were leaving at Princes Park. I did lose it a bit.
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
whythelongface
Nice to see the Suns best the Tigers. Tigers are in a world of pain and a long way off competing.
Suns winning is giod for footy
Impressed witb Darcy Macpherson , his become a solid player for them
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
They could get back on track quickly enough but they'll need to make some strong decisions plus it won't be via the draft next year.
Do they have those strong decisions in them?
I see Hardwick in a very similar vein to Beveridge, in that his loyalty to his players is both a great strength and a great weakness. Jack Reiwoldt had been joked about before as being a favourite of his, I wonder if Hardwick is able to have that hard conversation with Jack and Cotchin.
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
westdog54
Do they have those strong decisions in them?
I see Hardwick in a very similar vein to Beveridge, in that his loyalty to his players is both a great strength and a great weakness. Jack Reiwoldt had been joked about before as being a favourite of his, I wonder if Hardwick is able to have that hard conversation with Jack and Cotchin.
Hard to say but Hardwick must know in his heart he's needs to revamp this side asap.
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Cotchin should have retired and probably Riewoldt as well.
Both players will retire this year and that will help start the rebuild. Not having a first round pick this year won't help.
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Both players will retire this year and that will help start the rebuild. Not having a first round pick this year won't help.
I think they have gone one year too long
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
bornadog
I think they have gone one year too long
You can probably understand why but based on what we have seen it's hard to disagree.
The Taranto and Hopper inclusions would have been better for a contending side
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
You can probably understand why but based on what we have seen it's hard to disagree.
The Taranto and Hopper inclusions would have been better for a contending side
They shot themselves in the foot and lost a lot of close games late last year and really pushed eventual premier Geelong (should have beaten them if not for Tom Stewart's coward hit on Prestia), so they thought they were closer than they really are. It was a gamble but an understandable one to go after one these guys to shore up their inside midfield weaknesses (but not both). However the game has changed and these inside bulls with questionable leg speed and foot skills are getting picked off on the turnover when they miss hit their targets. Also 7 years each is a massive investment that you need to be 100% sure of the game trends - you'd give an elite runner and goal kicker like Jeremy Cameron 7 years as an example, but not these tough inside but not great skilled plodders (and certainly not both).
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
Sedat
They shot themselves in the foot and lost a lot of close games late last year and really pushed eventual premier Geelong (should have beaten them if not for Tom Stewart's coward hit on Prestia), so they thought they were closer than they really are. It was a gamble but an understandable one to go after one these guys to shore up their inside midfield weaknesses (but not both). However the game has changed and these inside bulls with questionable leg speed and foot skills are getting picked off on the turnover when they miss hit their targets. Also 7 years each is a massive investment that you need to be 100% sure of the game trends - you'd give an elite runner and goal kicker like Jeremy Cameron 7 years as an example, but not these tough inside but not great skilled plodders (and certainly not both).
Could have signed McComb for a lot less.
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01-05-2023, 04:46 PM
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
Sedat
They shot themselves in the foot and lost a lot of close games late last year and really pushed eventual premier Geelong (should have beaten them if not for Tom Stewart's coward hit on Prestia), so they thought they were closer than they really are. It was a gamble but an understandable one to go after one these guys to shore up their inside midfield weaknesses (but not both). However the game has changed and these inside bulls with questionable leg speed and foot skills are getting picked off on the turnover when they miss hit their targets. Also 7 years each is a massive investment that you need to be 100% sure of the game trends - you'd give an elite runner and goal kicker like Jeremy Cameron 7 years as an example, but not these tough inside but not great skilled plodders (and certainly not both).
I reckon that is those two signings are two of the most obscure signings of all time. 7 years for good players that are the icings on the cake for a good squad but not one that is obviously on the cusp of a re-build. This is where Hawthorn have taken a much better approach and are building from the ground up with some experience left in the ranks.
Totally agree with what you are saying in that they over rated where they are currently are at. They have had a bloody successful run but it is time for them to recognise that they need to rebuild. It will take longer now that they have traded for Taranto and Hopper.
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01-05-2023, 04:54 PM
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
whythelongface
I reckon that is those two signings are two of the most obscure signings of all time. 7 years for good players that are the icings on the cake for a good squad but not one that is obviously on the cusp of a re-build. This is where Hawthorn have taken a much better approach and are building from the ground up with some experience left in the ranks.
Totally agree with what you are saying in that they over rated where they are currently are at. They have had a bloody successful run but it is time for them to recognise that they need to rebuild. It will take longer now that they have traded for Taranto and Hopper.
I think most teams look at Geelong and have fallen into the trap of thinking they can perpetually rebuild their list on the run with mature recruits. Geelong are probably the only ones to manage that and it probably has nothing to do with being the only Victorian team to have a genuine home game advantage against all the others.
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01-05-2023, 05:19 PM
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I think most teams look at Geelong and have fallen into the trap of thinking they can perpetually rebuild their list on the run with mature recruits. Geelong are probably the only ones to manage that and it probably has nothing to do with being the only Victorian team to have a genuine home game advantage against all the others.
Don't you feel any pride for tipping your hard-earned taxes into such an altruistic endeavour?
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01-05-2023, 05:22 PM
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Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Don't you feel any pride for tipping your hard-earned taxes into such an altruistic endeavour?
I sure do. Everytime I see it empty in Summer because it doesn't fit the dimensions required to be a cricket stadium despite that being the origin of our game I think about how lucky the people of Geelong are to have such a marvelous piece of art that takes so much space, even if the locals I speak to either consider it a waste of money or feel isolated/abandoned by the club as a result of the changes made to seating.
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01-05-2023, 05:24 PM
#104
Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Richmond did have Nankervis, Prestia and most importantly Lynch out.
That would be like English, Macrae and Naughton out for us.
It’s great to see them down though
I will never see #16 the same!!
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01-05-2023, 05:42 PM
#105
Re: AFL Game Day R7 2023
Originally Posted by
Sedat
Don't you feel any pride for tipping your hard-earned taxes into such an altruistic endeavour?
How do you feel about the 50 million ploughed into Whitten Oval by the Governments?
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