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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Ameet Bains confirming this morning Bruce wants to play with us.
Talks about it here as well as Keath
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Ameet Bains confirming this morning Bruce wants to play with us.
Ratten this morning apparently said Bruce hasn't advised the Saints of his intentions. Seems weird to say that when our CEO is coming out publicly.
Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
Ratten this morning apparently said Bruce hasn't advised the Saints of his intentions. Seems weird to say that when our CEO is coming out publicly.
Ahh silly season is well and truly here!
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Ameet also said what a few of us were saying on here, that is, Schache, Naughton & Bruce can/will all play together. Bruce as the deep target, Naughton roaming and leading in the arc, and Schache using his elite running endurance to work up and down the ground.
So something like:
HF: Schache Naughton Dale
F: Lloyd Bruce (small pressure forward would be ideal)
And what a wasted opportunity. Granted it's been a while since I interviewed people for a salary, but surely a good and an interesting question should've been asked, something like 'are there any other trade targets the Bulldogs have?'
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Ameet also said what a few of us were saying on here, that is, Schache, Naughton & Bruce can/will all play together. Bruce as the deep target, Naughton roaming and leading in the arc, and Schache using his elite running endurance to work up and down the ground.
So something like:
HF: Schache Naughton Dale
F: Lloyd Bruce (small pressure forward would be ideal)
Yeah Shache covers more ground than any other dogs player, but I'm not sure dale can really play high.
We tend to have a higher forward who can push up to the contest and play as a mid, which is the role Lloyd often played for us.
Dale tended to play deep as a marking option. I think we'll trial a few things over the pre-season to see how we structure up. We may decide that only one of Dickson/Lloyd/Dale can play in our structure and go with a pressure small and a resting mid to compliment our forward 6.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
Mofra
Yeah Shache covers more ground than any other dogs player, but I'm not sure dale can really play high.
We tend to have a higher forward who can push up to the contest and play as a mid, which is the role Lloyd often played for us.
Dale tended to play deep as a marking option. I think we'll trial a few things over the pre-season to see how we structure up. We may decide that only one of Dickson/Lloyd/Dale can play in our structure and go with a pressure small and a resting mid to compliment our forward 6.
If we can get a pressure small forward in happy to look at playing Dale & Lloyd with the big boys (swap them over if you like). With West (until he goes mid), maybe Williams, Greene, Cavarra, Vandermeer & Gowers needing form to knock them out. Is Dickson a 'must sign' starts to become more and more a serious question now we know Bruce, Schache & Nughton will play together and Lloyd & Dale had good seasons too and should be in a starting 6 forwards.
Interest chronology today: Ratten says Bruce isn't asking to leave. Then Bains says Bruce hs told us wants to play for us. Dal Santo says pick 32 is his worth.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Interest chronology today: Ratten says Bruce isn't asking to leave. Then Bains says Bruce hs told us wants to play for us. Dal Santo says pick 32 is his worth.
Posturing from Ratten - they want to spend the money on others - Hill and Jones - and they dont want Bruce long term as they are building the forward line around King
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
Ratten this morning apparently said Bruce hasn't advised the Saints of his intentions. Seems weird to say that when our CEO is coming out publicly.
A bit of posturing in a feeble attempt to get a better deal from us.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
Bulldog Revolution
Posturing from Ratten - they want to spend the money on others - Hill and Jones - and they dont want Bruce long term as they are building the forward line around King
Ahh, beat me too it
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
A bit of posturing in a feeble attempt to get a better deal from us.
Yeah, it's just a little weird to go on about how Bruce is a top 5 contested mark, contracted etc so therefore his trade value would be representative of that, yet also say 'Josh hasn't asked for a trade'.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
comrade
Yeah, it's just a little weird to go on about how Bruce is a top 5 contested mark, contracted etc so therefore his trade value would be representative of that, yet also say 'Josh hasn't asked for a trade'.
"He's superman but we don't necessarily want to commit to him beyond his contract"
While what he has reportedly said might very well be true I'm not sure he's actually making a compelling case for a great deal
In reality he's probably worth more than our 2nd pick but I think we can stare them down on this one given they need to get a deal done for Zak Jones
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
BlackSoul: on Josh Bruce: St Kilda have a need to move money out for Brad Hill. I don't see the Saints getting anything near a first-rounder.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Good grief I’ll take the Bruce morphing into plugger as wrong as I think he’s morphed into John Coleman
Someone tell Ratten it’s not Carlton in the 80’s
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
There could very well be something to this but I do think clubs are happy to move on contracted players when they don't see them in the longer term. If they were to wait 12 months to trade him they wouldn't get much in return
The fact that they want Zac Jones more means Bruce is a bit surplus to their needs next year
Exactly they've identied they need to make changes to their on field methodology and Bruce has basically been substituted for Jones. They're clearly after more run from Hill and Jones. Good luck to them it's a win win we need an experienced F50 target to take the heat off our young gun.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Josh Bruce 2019
Is this why Saints are letting Bruce go?
Former Saint Nick Dal Santo says the club would have “some confidence” it can reunite Ben King with his twin brother Max at Moorabbin next year.
Dal Santo said St Kilda’s willingness to let one of its leading forwards Josh Bruce cross to the Western Bulldogs suggested the club was already planning for the future.
Ben King played 14 games and kicked 17 goals in his debut year for the Suns, but was still recently being linked with a return to Victoria.
“This has been going on for 12 months when he first went to the Gold Coast Suns,” Dal Santo said.
“If they want to get the deal done, they have got to pay for Ben King. That’s just the way that it is.”
The No.6 draft pick in the 2018 national draft, Ben King will command a huge price if he returns to his home state after two years.
It would be a dream scenario for St Kilda, who could deploy the brothers as their bookends for the next decade.
“You have Ben King at one end. Max King at the other, Rowan Marshall rucking,” Dal Santo said.
The ex-Saints midfielder said it made sense to let Bruce go while he still had currency.
St Kilda could acquire Western Bulldogs’ second-round pick, No.32, for the forward.
“I don’t think anyone wants to see Josh Bruce go but unfortunately these things happen at times,” he said on AFL Trade Radio.
“On the other hand, at least they are doing something.”
St Kilda coach Brett Ratten denied Bruce had requested a trade yesterday, shortly before Bulldogs chief executive Ameet Bains said he was intent on moving to Whitten Oval.
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