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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
Completely agree, why should we worry about their salary.
So if we took Trav Cloke on his $600,000 salary at Collingwood you would've been fine?
Taking on Suckling at $600,000 maybe, would've been fine?
To make an informed decision about the worth of a contract, one needs to understands numbers right? By this line of thinking paying him $1,000,000 and celebrate in his re-signing. Knowing the dollar cost of a long contract in an environment of limited salary cap seems important enough a thing to know, or have interest in.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
So if we took Trav Cloke on his $600,000 salary at Collingwood you would've been fine?
Taking on Suckling at $600,000 maybe, would've been fine?
To make an informed decision about the worth of a contract, one needs to understands numbers right? By this line of thinking paying him $1,000,000 and celebrate in his re-signing. Knowing the dollar cost of a long contract in an environment of limited salary cap seems important enough a thing to know, or have interest in.
The club is not that stupid, and it is not my problem. They can manage the salary cap and dish out what they feel each player is worth. Once it is all done, then I have don't have an issue.
The media are the ones banging on about guys like Tom Boyd and it just gets tiresome.
If you enjoy playing with the dollars, then have fun.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
The club is not that stupid, and it is not my problem. They can manage the salary cap and dish out what they feel each player is worth. Once it is all done, then I have don't have an issue.
The media are the ones banging on about guys like Tom Boyd and it just gets tiresome.
If you enjoy playing with the dollars, then have fun.
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After I win Oz Lotto, I will. But I thought you were our resident numbers man?
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
bornadog
The club is not that stupid, and it is not my problem. They can manage the salary cap and dish out what they feel each player is worth. Once it is all done, then I have don't have an issue.
The media are the ones banging on about guys like Tom Boyd and it just gets tiresome.
If you enjoy playing with the dollars, then have fun.
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And look what its done to Tom Boyd . We the public should have no knowledge of what players earn or are speculated to earn we are fans of the game not the wage they earn or their private lives.
Let the clubs do the wheeling and dealing in private, all we need to know is who we have on our list and how to win a flag with it .
I'm totally against invading people's lives. Back in the Lou Richards writing days they talked about the game and kept it at that. That's our business and it's all it should be.
Media is a disgrace nowadays in their reporting and player spying and speculation , just report what's true. Not make up rubbish. They are reporters not the story makers. It's become about them and who can speculate the best.
Bring back the biff
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
In a sport where there is a salary cap, and a clubs ability to bring in players from other clubs is impacted by how much they are paying current players - then of course it has to be a talking point. It is a professional sport - and in every professional sport in the world, like it or not - players contracts become public. If anything, the wages of AFL players are less public than most other sports and it is only really the notable contracts that get made public.
By notable - I mean like when a player moves clubs, or when a player drags out their contract talks with their existing club.
In an ideal world for the footballers - their salaries wouldn't be made public. But this is the reality of professional sport.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
comrade
If it's $650K per year, Barrett won't be speculating about anything. That's a fair price and I'd imagine it's unders compared to what his manager was hoping to squeeze out of the market.
I wonder if his manager is still on board?
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ledge
Why ? We have no control over it. It is what it is , its not our business.
Quite funny how going back no one cared who got what as long as the players stayed now we have been manipulated by the media speculation in the last few years about how much money etc etc , boils down to the club offered what they thought was reasonable and the player signed.
I hate how the media makes a story out of a story , these journalists are sports journos not money managers , stick to the sport not personal stuff. Just say he signed for 5 years and leave it at that . The AFLs job to watch wages not their business or ours.
I certainly wouldn't want my wage all over the papers .. Attracts robbers etc.
we have become " nosey parkers" :-)
Well said ledge. According to the meeja the bad news is JJ wasn't going to sign and then, when he does sign, it's even worse news!
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bulldogtragic
So if we believe the media, now JJ is staying, Jake Stringer must be leaving then.
Yep. Jake must be going.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
Great news, now he might start concentrating on football.
It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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KT31
Great news, now he might start concentrating on football.
It'd be nice if his teamates stuck their bibs in from time to time and knocked the next *!*!*!*! who gets in JJ's face into the middle of next *!*!*!*!ing week.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
As a paying member of our club I'm glad when responsible media tells me how it is spending the money I and my fellow members are contributing.
It's dreadfully important to me that I understand that my club is not pissing money up against the wall on players they shouldn't, or doing the opposite with others who deserve to be treated well.
The key for lay folk like us is to find trusted media and sources of information and trust them, and shun not-trusted media. I don't get pissed off about how our players are portrayed in the media (apart from live calls - I go apeshit over those) and pay attention to trusted sources, like what we get here.
As an aside, the players sign a playing and social contract when they sign up with us. They can't have the privilege of being an AFL footballer without accepting the shortfalls. The latter and its issues are clearly defined, they sign up to the associated pain.
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
Excellent, excellent news. Very relieved. I wonder how much the downturn in form contributed to the re-signing and whether suitors cooled because of it.
I'm sure I have no idea what you're on about J, or maybe I do? It's hard to say.
But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
Nobody's looking for a puppeteer in today's wintry economic climate.
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
Ozza
In a sport where there is a salary cap, and a clubs ability to bring in players from other clubs is impacted by how much they are paying current players - then of course it has to be a talking point. It is a professional sport - and in every professional sport in the world, like it or not - players contracts become public. If anything, the wages of AFL players are less public than most other sports and it is only really the notable contracts that get made public.
By notable - I mean like when a player moves clubs, or when a player drags out their contract talks with their existing club.
In an ideal world for the footballers - their salaries wouldn't be made public. But this is the reality of professional sport.
i believe the new EBA encompasses players wages being made public. Apparently BB in the USA has this clause.
I am totally against it due to the criminal world knowing who they could target and the pressures that come with it. Eg The gutter media (Barrett) causing mental issues to young guns. I don't care how much money your paid it doesn't compensate or fix it.
Bring back the biff
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
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Originally Posted by
ledge
i believe the new EBA encompasses players wages being made public. Apparently BB in the USA has this clause.
I am totally against it due to the criminal world knowing who they could target and the pressures that come with it. Eg The gutter media (Barrett) causing mental issues to young guns. I don't care how much money your paid it doesn't compensate or fix it.
People already know AFL players get a fair whack. I don't think publishing how much they get exposes them to any more chance of being robbed.
I don't want to know because it's none of my business how much a player earns and its incredibly crass taking about how much money people make.
They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.
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Twodogs
It'd be nice if his teamates stuck their bibs in from time to time and knocked the next *!*!*!*! who gets in JJ's face into the middle of next *!*!*!*!ing week.
Isn't this why Easton Wood is suspended this week?
More of an In Bruges guy?
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Re: JJ Signs deal for 5 years
Good news.
As pointed out he's a unique player and vital to our on-going success.. Going through a difficult period, but he will come out the other side and be better for the experience.
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