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Sounds like Hawthorn offering up Burton and pick 15.
With the Ceglar rumour of leaving, and being a KPD down, I wonder if they look at Jordan Roughead as cheap cover for both spots.
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
Hamling played a great finals series and I admit I would've liked him to stay. But prior to that he was a fringe player himself along with Stevens and Hrovat.
Fringe players always look elsewhere for better opportunity. I wouldn't read too much into that.
Hurley was disappointing though.
When I think how poorly Crameri performed, I'm not disappointed we didn't get Hurley. Coming from a bad program.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
Sounds like 15+ a good young player might be more than we would want to offer. i think best equivalent would be Richards or Williams + a pick in the teens which I believe is worth more than pick 7.
Port board on BFs reasoning for the club shopping him around is that he 'doesn't share the desire to win premierships' so while not at Stringer levels the comparison and caution some showed earlier may be apt. (post below goes into it)
Saw a post from the Port BF forum and I'm kinda glad that we didn't get him if it's true.
From the Port board...we may have dodged a bullet here...
Ok so here's the 4-1-1. I've had a number of PMs pleading for reasoning. So here goes.
He's the laziest player on the list bar none. He ****s around at training, is always the last to arrive and the first to leave. Never does extra sessions.
He fails to respond to contact from the high performance teams about his appalling body composition. In fact as we speak he is the only player not to check in with their composition this off-season despite repeated attempts at contact.
He locks himself away on Fortnite for away games, bringing his gaming gear with him and sits in his hotel room often alone.
The club have tried desperately to get him to lift his game and he has refused to respond.
He has no interest in achieving premiership success and he has no drive to succeed. A player in it for the lifestyle.
The club have lost patience, they don't want him. This was happening since day 1 of pre-season. His attitude absolutely stinks and his petulance on social media has driven a final wedge.
We've tried everything to accommodate him, and he's given us nothing.
The club understand he will likely succeed at another club but the factors for this will be things the PAFC cannot control.
The players themselves have run out of patience with him, he genuinely doesn't get on with Chad Cornes - reason being Chad has demanded more from him and driven him with the whip and Wingard can't take it.
The official reasoning - "We are here to win premierships, and Chad does not share that desire."
I am fully on the club's side here. It hurts, it burns. It aches. However you all agree you want a club with a spine, you've got one.
Chad Wingard has become damaging to the playing group.
Would have been just replacing last years cancer with another one.
Saw a post from the Port BF forum and I'm kinda glad that we didn't get him if it's true.
Would have been just replacing last years cancer with another one.
hahah. I wasn't going to say it for fear of looking like an old curmudgeon, but I hate sleeve tattoos and his general vibe.
Sounds like package Mk II. Not thanks! I love dodging bullets.
You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus
The hysteria on here is quite extraordinary.
I just love how inflated opinion of players become in the trade period .
Naughton will be a star as will Richards and funnily enough they were drafted in the first round .
Hurley turned us down during 2016 and we somehow won the flag !
Some of these so called “ destination clubs” are treading water just topping up .
Whilst I agree with your general sentiment on high profile FA's being a little overrated, I am a massive Wingard fan and am shattered we couldn't get him over the line. He is top 10 in the comp on talent and has his best years ahead of him - would have been a fantastic get for the club for a number of reasons.
Can we do a 'Tom Boyd' and flip this on its ear? Maybe we can go to James Sicily's management and offer him a monster deal that the Hawks can't come close to matching. We will likely lose Adams so some quality key position defensive cover and good ball use out of D50 would be as welcome as Wingard's skill set.
Whilst I agree with your general sentiment on high profile FA's being a little overrated, I am a massive Wingard fan and am shattered we couldn't get him over the line. He is top 10 in the comp on talent and has his best years ahead of him - would have been a fantastic get for the club for a number of reasons.
Can we do a 'Tom Boyd' and flip this on its ear? Maybe we can go to James Sicily's management and offer him a monster deal that the Hawks can't come close to matching. We will likely lose Adams so some quality key position defensive cover and good ball use out of D50 would be as welcome as Wingard's skill set.
If I get to chose who we target, can it be Lachie Whitfield from GWS??
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