Tribunal / suspensions 2024

[Bornadog]

Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

Cameron is appealing.

I just saw the tackle. He was too aggressive and wanted to hurt the player - 3 weeks is fair enough

[jeemak]

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https://www.afl.com.au/news/1173450/...or-sandringham

Lance Collard facing a lengthy spell on the sidelines because he went on a slur spree during the Sandringham VFL game on the weekend

This guy just looks ignorant.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

This guy just looks ignorant.

He's the guy MJP was talking about last year.
Like elite talent but had had some issues with behavior.

[MrMahatma]

Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

Cameron is appealing.

I just saw the tackle. He was too aggressive and wanted to hurt the player - 3 weeks is fair enough

Disagree. It was just a tackle.

These suspensions and the way HTB is interpreted… why bother tackling anymore?

[jazzadogs]

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Disagree. It was just a tackle.

These suspensions and the way HTB is interpreted… why bother tackling anymore?

Disagree. Holding the ball has now been massively weighted towards the tackler. Particularly if you pin one arm!

But please DO NOT pin the arm because if you fall over we will suspend you.

But GREAT WORK pinning the arm! With only one arm free, and no option to kick the ball without falling over and potentially hitting their head, your opponent can either drop the ball (free kick to you!), throw it away (free kick to you!) or hold on to it (free kick to you!).

My question is, why would you want to pick up the ball in congestion??

[Grantysghost]

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Disagree. Holding the ball has now been massively weighted towards the tackler. Particularly if you pin one arm!

But please DO NOT pin the arm because if you fall over we will suspend you.

But GREAT WORK pinning the arm! With only one arm free, and no option to kick the ball without falling over and potentially hitting their head, your opponent can either drop the ball (free kick to you!), throw it away (free kick to you!) or hold on to it (free kick to you!).

My question is, why would you want to pick up the ball in congestion??

My understanding is if you don't have prior and drop it (as opposed to hanging onto it) it's play on.
I think players have been instructed to hang onto it so their team mates can transition.
If you drop it, there's a chance of turn over / being caught out of position.

I might be in the minority but I think the new interpretation is better.

Quick whistle, if you've had no prior spill it, if you have you're gone.

[Axe Man]

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My understanding is if you don't have prior and drop it (as opposed to hanging onto it) it's play on.
I think players have been instructed to hang onto it so their team mates can transition.
If you drop it, there's a chance of turn over / being caught out of position.

I might be in the minority but I think the new interpretation is better.

Quick whistle, if you've had no prior spill it, if you have you're gone.

If there is no prior there seem to be 3 different scenarios -

1. Drop it straight away = spilled out in the tackle - play on.
2. Pin both arms = ball up.
3. Pin 1 arm - unless you can manage to drop it onto your foot you are going to pinned for holding the ball despite often having no realistic way to dispose of the ball legally. This doesn't make any sense to me.

[Grantysghost]

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If there is no prior there seem to be 3 different scenarios -

1. Drop it straight away = spilled out in the tackle - play on.
2. Pin both arms = ball up.
3. Pin 1 arm - unless you can manage to drop it onto your foot you are going to pinned for holding the ball despite often having no realistic way to dispose of the ball legally. This doesn't make any sense to me.

I thought with point 3 if you drop it you're good (with no prior)

[Axe Man]

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I thought with point 3 if you drop it you're good (with no prior)

That would come under point 1, drop it straight away. If it's any later it's going to be holding the ball.

[jeemak]

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The rule has always been that if you have one arm pinned and can't legally dispose of the football it's holding the ball. Really not sure what the issue is on that front, it's just that tackling technique is more sophisticated these days that it's happening more.

This is what I've always said about changing the rules around prior opportunity and tackling. When rules were originally devised tackling wasn't a skill in the same way it is today, and hasty changes will result in more confusion and possible issues.

And here we are......

[Bulldog Revolution]

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Cameron is appealing.

I just saw the tackle. He was too aggressive and wanted to hurt the player - 3 weeks is fair enough

That's the way I saw it - it was a very dangerous tackle

[Bornadog]

Re: Tribunal / suspensions 2024

That's the way I saw it - it was a very dangerous tackle

Cameron was angry, and too vigorous

[Bulldog Joe]

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My understanding is if you don't have prior and drop it (as opposed to hanging onto it) it's play on.
I think players have been instructed to hang onto it so their team mates can transition.
If you drop it, there's a chance of turn over / being caught out of position.

I might be in the minority but I think the new interpretation is better.

Quick whistle, if you've had no prior spill it, if you have you're gone.

I actually agree with you on this. Completely!

[Bulldog Joe]

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If there is no prior there seem to be 3 different scenarios -

1. Drop it straight away = spilled out in the tackle - play on.
2. Pin both arms = ball up.
3. Pin 1 arm - unless you can manage to drop it onto your foot you are going to pinned for holding the ball despite often having no realistic way to dispose of the ball legally. This doesn't make any sense to me.

If the ball is free try to dispose of it.

If the tackle is too good to allow that - Reward the tackle.

I also think there is room to add to the moving the ball on.

There should be no option in a 1x1 tackle where the ball is actually pinned for a ball up. When a player is tackled they must dispose of the ball. Going to ground negates prior opportunity. Open play also means gathering the ball provides an opportunity or you are trying to create space.

One of the current interpretation issues is that often a player is basically tackled before they have clean possession. There needs to be more frees paid for holding before possession.

[Axe Man]

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If the ball is free try to dispose of it.

If the tackle is too good to allow that - Reward the tackle.

I also think there is room to add to the moving the ball on.

There should be no option in a 1x1 tackle where the ball is actually pinned for a ball up. When a player is tackled they must dispose of the ball. Going to ground negates prior opportunity. Open play also means gathering the ball provides an opportunity or you are trying to create space.

One of the current interpretation issues is that often a player is basically tackled before they have clean possession. There needs to be more frees paid for holding before possession.

The major problem I have with that is punishing the player first for the ball for being instantly tackled and rewarding the player who is second to the ball. Fundamentally goes against everything we teach kids. I couldn't disagree any more.