Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

^I love how Vlad mentions the AFL's no tolerance approach to anything that compromises the integrity of the game, such as tanking, gambling, drugs etc......then conveniently omits the most damaging, the AFL created unfair fixture!

If it wasn't for the Bulldogs I would have NO interest in the AFL whatsoever. They're a pantomime of themselves.

True. What sport in the world has a compromised Scheldue like the AFL?
Absolute farce

[Remi Moses]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Tanking affair: AFL to lift the lid on Melbourne's 'vault'
DateOctober 30, 2012 - 2:53PM 318
Caroline Wilson


THE AFL has uncovered a secret meeting involving at least 10 members of the Melbourne football department in which coaches were reminded of the importance of forfeiting matches in order to gain early draft picks.

Former Melbourne football boss Chris Connolly addressed the 2009 meeting which The Age understands was code-named 'the vault'.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...#ixzz2AkrBuP96

Is anyone surprised this is all going to start coming out?

Amazing how The Age has trumped the H/S again on a major story!
The Tippett saga revealed by Emma Quayle.

[GVGjr]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

^I love how Vlad mentions the AFL's no tolerance approach to anything that compromises the integrity of the game, such as tanking, gambling, drugs etc......then conveniently omits the most damaging, the AFL created unfair fixture!

If they get sanctions it needs to be for first round draft picks. They should lose pick 4 this year and their first round pick and probably their 2nd pick for next season as a minimum.

This limits their ability to trade for players

A fine and a percentage reduction in the salary cap is also required.

The deals with Hogan and Viney might be void now.

Would we use pick 6 on Viney?

[Throughandthrough]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

I wish the article was titled "Adelaide Crows embroiled in tanking strategy dramas as Assistant Coach Dean Bailey is investigated for......"

[ledge]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

If they get sanctions it needs to be for first round draft picks. They should lose pick 4 this year and their first round pick and probably their 2nd pick for next season as a minimum.

This limits their ability to trade for players

A fine and a percentage reduction in the salary cap is also required.

The deals with Hogan and Viney might be void now.

Would we use pick 6 on Viney?

Wouldn't losing viney upset the Apple cart all that work leading up to taking him and him and his dad expecting to be at melbourne, wonder if we would take him
, not sure he would give 100 % and 2 years down the track he would probably want out

[chef]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Happy to get Wines also - seems an aboslute gun!

Me too.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

This. But you know what, Melbourne will get the book thrown at them because they've now been proven to have made Vlad sound like the fool that he is for arrogantly dismissing the notion that tanking occurs - even though tanking has been fostered by the AFL's own rules. Fool Vlad in public and you will suffer his wrath. Also he doesn't dare want to be subjected to legal action from the betting agencies so he will bash up an easy target ie: Melbourne in order to protect the millions pouring in from the betting agencies via sponsorship/signage.

Good luck trying to take Collingwood on and prove that they tanked in 2004 in order to get Thomas and Pendlebury - there was one match late that season where they were 4 goals up against North with 5 minutes to go that they somehow lost - Melbourne a much softer target

Wow. Thanks for that. Had not even thought about the betting angle.
They really want to watch themselves. Soccer will take over like a tidal wave as more migrants come here, AFL congestion makes the game less likable, and fans turn away because of this stuff.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Wouldn't losing viney upset the Apple cart all that work leading up to taking him and him and his dad expecting to be at melbourne, wonder if we would take him
, not sure he would give 100 % and 2 years down the track he would probably want out

I think BMac could turn him around. Make him look at examples where players did not get to the club of their choice, but embraced the challenge. BMAC would say, look, don't waste two years. Get on with it. Then earn the right to go where you want to.
Once he met the likes of Koby Stevens and Clay Smith, I think he would start to form friendships.
He has to accept that if Melbourne is made to lose him, then he simply can't live his dream right now and that's the reality. Many players don't get to the club of their choice first off.

[chef]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Wow. Thanks for that. Had not even thought about the betting angle.
They really want to watch themselves. Soccer will take over like a tidal wave as more migrants come here, AFL congestion makes the game less likable, and fans turn away because of this stuff.

I know soccer is starting to take over up here as kids can play it competitively from age 6, while AFL you have to wait until under 12's. More kids play with the round ball at lunch time too.

[jeemak]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

If they get sanctions it needs to be for first round draft picks. They should lose pick 4 this year and their first round pick and probably their 2nd pick for next season as a minimum.

This limits their ability to trade for players

A fine and a percentage reduction in the salary cap is also required.

The deals with Hogan and Viney might be void now.

Would we use pick 6 on Viney?

Agree with most of what you've stated, though I think they should still pay the minimum salary cap at least. Not sure if it's fair to punish players at the club by not paying competitive wages.

I barely bothered with looking at Viney as he was always going to Melbourne. Isn't he supposed to be a bit of an animal and accumulator? What are his skills like?

[KT31]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

To whatever degree, it is match fixing and the book should be thrown at all involved.
Both tanking and salary cap breaches are cheating but at least with a salary cap breach the team is still trying to compete and win the game.

[azabob]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

I wish the article was titled "Adelaide Crows embroiled in tanking strategy dramas as Assistant Coach Dean Bailey is investigated for......"

Why Dean Bailey? I may be the only one but I can't help but feel Bailey was a huge puppet and fall guy in the whole shebang....

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

Why Dean Bailey? I may be the only one but I can't help but feel Bailey was a huge puppet and fall guy in the whole shebang....

He was. Appears he had no choice except resign.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

If they get sanctions it needs to be for first round draft picks. They should lose pick 4 this year and their first round pick and probably their 2nd pick for next season as a minimum.

This limits their ability to trade for players

A fine and a percentage reduction in the salary cap is also required.

The deals with Hogan and Viney might be void now.

Would we use pick 6 on Viney?

Can't imagine they could make Viney void...they should still have the right to use their next available pick on him, no matter where it is in the draft. Take their first round picks off them, but I think it would be unfair to take Viney off them.

But I'll happily take Hogan

[mjp]

Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

This will end badly.

I would guess the AFL want Melbourne to keep their picks to help them become more competitive - bit will be compelled to punish them AND the Crows for cheating.

No idea where this all ends.