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  • Dancin' Douggy
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 2876

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    Me too, unequivocally. Jaeger is Ben Cousins on steroids. When he gets a good run at it he will be a phenomenon and Heppell et. al. will look like VFL players next to him. He's going to be top 5 in the comp one day and the best time to get him is now when his value is low.

    He's icing for us and just what we need. We have the backs and when Crameri returns the forwards too but a player like Jaeger in the midfield and anything is possible over an extended time frame. He's explosive, strong and makes the best decisions every time. He's potentially a game breaking mid.
    Yep, I agree. IF we can get him, IF he passes a medical, he's what we should be going after.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 67291

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      James Hird loses court battle with insurer over legal bills of close to $660,000


      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        Wow, that's,... too bad...

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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Robbo reporting Hird has strong legal advice he can appeal and will win
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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            I can't see too many AFL watchers being disappointed with this. Justice of a sort.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              Originally posted by Greystache
              Robbo reporting Hird has strong legal advice he can appeal and will win
              Tania?
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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Tania?
                Could well be. Probably a good example of why you should get advice from a lawyer, not a paralegal (despite her reinventing history to claim otherwise).

                But seriously, there's an ethical discussion to be had regarding this at some point. I don't have time to go into it in detail now but have Hird's lawyers acted ethically in continuing to take huge sums of money to represent him in hopelessly lost causes? Hird obviously has a multitude of problems, the most obvious is being unable to listen to anything he doesn't want to hear and the need to be told he's right. So have his lawyers strung him along telling him don't stand for this let's challenge it in court again, knowing full well they're unlikely to win but also knowing Hird will want to do it? Or is it a case of simply doing what your clients tells you to do and not trying to talk him out of it- A fool and his money type situation?

                I have no sympathy for Hird, he's a horrible human being, but there should circuit breakers in the system to protect even the worst people from themselves.
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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27664

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  Is Tania really just a para-legal? It's pretty tragic that she claims to be a lawyer then.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10204

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    Could well be. Probably a good example of why you should get advice from a lawyer, not a paralegal (despite her reinventing history to claim otherwise).

                    But seriously, there's an ethical discussion to be had regarding this at some point. I don't have time to go into it in detail now but have Hird's lawyers acted ethically in continuing to take huge sums of money to represent him in hopelessly lost causes? Hird obviously has a multitude of problems, the most obvious is being unable to listen to anything he doesn't want to hear and the need to be told he's right. So have his lawyers strung him along telling him don't stand for this let's challenge it in court again, knowing full well they're unlikely to win but also knowing Hird will want to do it? Or is it a case of simply doing what your clients tells you to do and not trying to talk him out of it- A fool and his money type situation?

                    I have no sympathy for Hird, he's a horrible human being, but there should circuit breakers in the system to protect even the worst people from themselves.
                    He probably has a case against his legal advisers in breaching their overarching obligation to him, but he appears to have also done a fair bit of "cowboy shit" in pursuing his case that might complicate it.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Greystache
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9775

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Is Tania really just a para-legal? It's pretty tragic that she claims to be a lawyer then.
                      She did a law degree but was never a lawyer like she claims, and was certainly never a high profile lawyer. She also claims to have been top of her class at Melbourne Law, which again is false, a previous executive I worked was in the same year and described her as a "very mediocre student". Then again she was Tania back then rather than Tar-ni-er as she pronounces it these days.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67291

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        Originally posted by Greystache
                        She did a law degree but was never a lawyer like she claims, and was certainly never a high profile lawyer. She also claims to have been top of her class at Melbourne Law, which again is false, a previous executive I worked was in the same year and described her as a "very mediocre student". Then again she was Tania back then rather than Tar-ni-er as she pronounces it these days.
                        She worked for Corrs Chambers Westgarth as a commercial property lawyer
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                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13310

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Tania is by far the best punishment I could ever wish on James. I reckon she smacks him around.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Originally posted by Greystache
                            Could well be. Probably a good example of why you should get advice from a lawyer, not a paralegal (despite her reinventing history to claim otherwise).

                            But seriously, there's an ethical discussion to be had regarding this at some point. I don't have time to go into it in detail now but have Hird's lawyers acted ethically in continuing to take huge sums of money to represent him in hopelessly lost causes? Hird obviously has a multitude of problems, the most obvious is being unable to listen to anything he doesn't want to hear and the need to be told he's right. So have his lawyers strung him along telling him don't stand for this let's challenge it in court again, knowing full well they're unlikely to win but also knowing Hird will want to do it? Or is it a case of simply doing what your clients tells you to do and not trying to talk him out of it- A fool and his money type situation?

                            I have no sympathy for Hird, he's a horrible human being, but there should circuit breakers in the system to protect even the worst people from themselves.
                            Fairness please. Remember, the struggling lawyers of this country need to put food on the table and audis in the garage. Would you deny these Australian workers their right to long lunches and trips to Vanuatu just because James can't reign in his ego?
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              Could well be. Probably a good example of why you should get advice from a lawyer, not a paralegal (despite her reinventing history to claim otherwise).

                              But seriously, there's an ethical discussion to be had regarding this at some point. I don't have time to go into it in detail now but have Hird's lawyers acted ethically in continuing to take huge sums of money to represent him in hopelessly lost causes? Hird obviously has a multitude of problems, the most obvious is being unable to listen to anything he doesn't want to hear and the need to be told he's right. So have his lawyers strung him along telling him don't stand for this let's challenge it in court again, knowing full well they're unlikely to win but also knowing Hird will want to do it? Or is it a case of simply doing what your clients tells you to do and not trying to talk him out of it- A fool and his money type situation?

                              I have no sympathy for Hird, he's a horrible human being, but there should circuit breakers in the system to protect even the worst people from themselves.
                              Fairness please. Remember, the struggling lawyers of this country need to put food on the table and audis in the garage. Would you deny these Australian workers their right to long lunches and trips to Vanuatu just because James can't reign in his ego?
                              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                              • ledge
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 14466

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                A bit like divorce lawyers saying you can get more, knowing even the most reasonable proposition was made. They really want to keep getting paid.
                                Lets face it if divorce was done by the basic rules. divorce lawyers wouldn't have a job.
                                I got divorced once and let me tell you they don't have a bone of what's right or wrong in their body.
                                Show me the money !!
                                Bring back the biff

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