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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66580

    Re: List Management 2015

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Yep, I'd be surprised if Kreuzer ended up with with us.
    I think he will stick with Carlton
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    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15291

      Re: List Management 2015

      The press conference was interesting listening. Beveridge wants to keep Minson and doesn't want to move on any of our players. He wants to keep the list together.

      And from what it's worth when i listened to the press conference, I wouldn't be surprised if we signed Kreuzer
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15412

        Re: List Management 2015

        Originally posted by azabob
        The press conference was interesting listening. Beveridge wants to keep Minson and doesn't want to move on any of our players. He wants to keep the list together.

        And from what it's worth when i listened to the press conference, I wouldn't be surprised if we signed Kreuzer
        Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says Will Minson's career at Whitten Oval is secure despite the All Australian ruckman being out of favour for much of the season.

        "Every week we consider Will and our ruck situation," Beveridge said.

        "All it says is that he's next in line or the one after that at the moment.

        "Will's a contracted player into 2016, so he's a required player.

        "His long-term future is secure."

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        I call bullshit!

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11212

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says Will Minson's career at Whitten Oval is secure despite the All Australian ruckman being out of favour for much of the season.

          "Every week we consider Will and our ruck situation," Beveridge said.

          "All it says is that he's next in line or the one after that at the moment.

          "Will's a contracted player into 2016, so he's a required player.

          "His long-term future is secure."

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          I call bullshit!
          That's called trying to convince the rest of the clubs that they'll have to pony up a suitable trade in order to prise him away from the kennel. Not sure if any other club will take the bait.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: List Management 2015

            Each week we consider Will. (And mostly dismissing playing him early in the week. True comment)
            Will is a contracted player in 2006. (True comment)
            Will is a required player. (Because our contract requires us to keep him this year. True comment)
            His long term future is secure. (He will get a large salary next year, no matter what club he goes to. True comment)
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Dog54

              Re: List Management 2015

              What does everybody think minson is worth ? I would say second round pick or possibly a 1st round pick upgrade. Potential suitors may be the 2 qld teams. Also may he be in Beveridges calculations next year when the sun is abolished?

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              • Dog54

                Re: List Management 2015

                What does everybody think minson is worth ? I would say second round pick or possibly a 1st round pick upgrade. Potential suitors may be the 2 qld teams. Also may he be in Beveridges calculations next year when the sub is abolished?

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                • boydogs
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5842

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Originally posted by Dog54
                  I would say second round pick or possibly a 1st round pick upgrade
                  Not for a 30 year old who isn't best 22
                  If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                  Formerly gogriff

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                  • Doc26
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3087

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    Originally posted by Dog54
                    What does everybody think minson is worth ? I would say second round pick or possibly a 1st round pick upgrade. Potential suitors may be the 2 qld teams. Also may he be in Beveridges calculations next year when the sun is abolished?
                    At the very best it would be maneuvering of deep 4th round picks assuming there was interest.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Originally posted by Doc26
                      At the very best it would be maneuvering of deep 4th round picks assuming there was interest.
                      Yep. His high water mark for trading is long gone. 4th round is about right, or an upgrade somewhere higher maybe depending on the gap of picks.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        I reckon he'll be tradeable because there's always a club needing a back up ruck (we traded Hudson at 32YO and he went on to play for 2 further clubs). I reckon we'd get an upgrade of about 10 picks, say Minson and pick 50 for pick 40 or something like that.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Hope this works. Funny...

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                          • Doc26
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3087

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                            I reckon he'll be tradeable because there's always a club needing a back up ruck (we traded Hudson at 32YO and he went on to play for 2 further clubs). I reckon we'd get an upgrade of about 10 picks, say Minson and pick 50 for pick 40 or something like that.
                            Minno was traded for a deep pick 70 to Brisbane. If we managed to get pick 40, being the likely end of the 2nd round after compos, for a pick swap we will have done extremely well. If there is interest, as you've said for coverage, which is feasible, I'd see it being for no better than a 4th round manoeuvre starting in the deep 50s, low 60s.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              But I'm saying pick 40 for Minno AND pick 50, it may be pick 60 for Minno AND 70, or whatever.

                              I doubt it'd a straight swap, just an upgrading of draft picks of less than 18 (1 round of selections).

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                The press conference was interesting listening. Beveridge wants to keep Minson and doesn't want to move on any of our players. He wants to keep the list together.

                                And from what it's worth when i listened to the press conference, I wouldn't be surprised if we signed Kreuzer
                                Surely no one thinks Bevo is going to say who we are interested in and who we are looking to delist at a presser?

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