List Management 2015

[Greystache]

Re: List Management 2015

Any word on the money we're talking for Kreuzer?

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

A while ago a figure of around $550k was mentioned, but suspect that's highly speculative.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

A while ago a figure of around $550k was mentioned, but suspect that's highly speculative.

I think it needs to be at least that for it to have good chances of it coming off. 4 years at $550,000 gets them pick 3 as compo. Like Del Santo and Goddard, Carlton could just say we love you but we get great compo and you get a long and lucrative contract.

Minson would have to go at a guess to free up some extra cap space. Even for a nominal trade. At a guess.

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

I don't see cap space as a major issue next year at least. We were at 93% this year, even after paying a big chunk of Griffen's wage.

In a year or 2 wages will become major issue, but hopefully new broadcast deal will substantially increase cap.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

I don't see cap space as a major issue next year at least. We were at 93% this year, even after paying a big chunk of Griffen's wage.

In a year or 2 wages will become major issue, but hopefully new broadcast deal will substantially increase cap.

Boyd goes from $200,000 to about $1,000,000 which more than covers Grphyons wage being freed up. Others like Stringer would be on more which pushes the cap closer than it needs to be, or could rule us out of trading for a high priced recruit. I think we need the room to play with, also the idea of keeping Minson who could be on $550,000 to play at Footscray as our 3rd string ruckman doesn't appeal to me as a sensible move. That salary and cap space could be used better if we get one or more ruckman into the club.

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

Certainly agree that Minson on that wage is somebody that should be traded if possible (although we'd probably still need to pay a portion of his wage).

Still think we're ok for a bit extra this year, 7% is a lot of leeway and I think under new rules we can go up to 5% over given previous deficits?

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

I reckon Sydney is a good prospective home for Minson, they are light on for ruckmen and are excluded from trading for anyone over $350k for this year or next.

He could tide them over until they can fully re-enter the trade market. Also means a lot of games at SCG where his lack of mobility is less of an issue.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

I reckon Sydney is a good prospective home for Minson, they are light on for ruckmen and are excluded from trading for anyone over $350k for this year or next.

He could tide them over until they can fully re-enter the trade market. Also means a lot of games at SCG where his lack of mobility is less of an issue.

Interesting call, seems on face value a good home for him. If he's got a contract for $550,000 we'd have to cover the difference of $200,000 which means I'd want something more than a nominal Daniel Cross like trade. Either their pick 40 or a player we want around that value. With a salary cap squeeze and no second ruckman, Sydney might just go for it. Devil in the details though.

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

I think we're covering the diff with Will regardless, at least for 1 year. He's got a $550k contract with us and no one is going to offer him that.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: List Management 2015

I miss have having a crowd grown when a play gets a touch with Cooney gone. Having Kruezer would be worth it just for that, kruuuuuuuuuuuezeeee.

[kruder]

Re: List Management 2015

For those who haven't heard (FWIW), Kruezer update:

Both Barrett and Maher have reported that Dogs are leading chase for Kruezer.

Maher reckons Dogs have detailed their initial offer to Kruezer's management.

Apparently Kruezer comes from a well-off family and is not particularly motivated by money. Sticking point with Carlton is term of contract, they won't give him 4 years, we will.

General opinion is that he is loyal to Carlton and would prefer to stay, but if club decide they would prefer to get #3 draft pick as compo than retain him, he may be up for leaving.

I was told the opposite that he is looking for money and that he understands that he is unlikely to be part of a successful side at the Blues. He will be leaving the Blues I reckon.

[comrade]

Re: List Management 2015

I'm undecided if a very good, mobile ruck is a priority, or if we need to bolster our defence.

The only time we really struggle in the ruck is against the absolute elite - so a handful of times a year - but these are the teams we'll be playing at the pointy end.

Really wish at least one of Talia, Roberts & Cordy can stand up as the gun key defender we desperately need.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: List Management 2015

I would love to be a fly on the wall in Bevo's office as he selects the team. Doesn't it make sense to rest the guys who give us the best run and carry?

[Dry Rot]

Re: List Management 2015

Interesting call, seems on face value a good home for him. If he's got a contract for $550,000 we'd have to cover the difference of $200,000 which means I'd want something more than a nominal Daniel Cross like trade. Either their pick 40 or a player we want around that value. With a salary cap squeeze and no second ruckman, Sydney might just go for it. Devil in the details though.

Sydney can't do that - I checked with Swans fans. $350k limit includes any top ups by the previous club.

[LostDoggy]

Re: List Management 2015

I'm undecided if a very good, mobile ruck is a priority, or if we need to bolster our defence.

The only time we really struggle in the ruck is against the absolute elite - so a handful of times a year - but these are the teams we'll be playing at the pointy end.

Really wish at least one of Talia, Roberts & Cordy can stand up as the gun key defender we desperately need.

I guess bolstering the Rucks gives us freedom to send Roughy back when team balance requires.