Michael Talia

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

400K and 3 years? Talia would be mad not to take it and we'd be mad not to encourage him to take it.

I'd be confident of finding a state league key defender or delisted free agent (ie. Hamling) who could offer as much or more than Talia. Not sure what Sydney have to offer in terms of players/picks - perhaps a third club would need to be involved.

Jones looked OK from the little I saw of him. Would a Jones & 2nd/3rd round pick suffice?

May end up more than that. Adelaide v.keen and cashed up with Danger leaving. Either way think Talia will get overs and we'll do ok.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

May end up more than that. Adelaide v.keen and cashed up with Danger leaving. Either way think Talia will get overs and we'll do ok.

I'd love that bidding war as both have the ability to stupid bid each other. Adelaide can keep pick 13 and give us 14 for Talia and pick 50. And they've got $400,000 still spare to get a keep Lynch and others. It's a long shot, but those two clubs in a bidding war could be huge for us. HUGE.

[hujsh]

Re: Michael Talia

A pick next year may work well for us if we're struggling to find people to move on this year. It's likely two of Bob Boyd and Morris will retire next year freeing up a couple spots on the list

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Michael Talia

A pick next year may work well for us if we're struggling to find people to move on this year. It's likely two of Bob Boyd and Morris will retire next year freeing up a couple spots on the list

Hard to guess when a player is going to retire. Bob will be an AA selection and Boyd is a very strong chance. Along with Morris, they are invaluable to our young backline. Our two main key defenders have what? 30 games between them? JJ and Biggs not too many more. Wood has had his breakout year. I think we need our veterans not only for the short term but also to help develop our kids.

They have the right coach looking after them too. Resting/rotating them throughout the season. Don't know about you but I am pretty cool with having AA quality players for 18 games a year.

Re-reading it, might give off the impression I'm having a go at you. Totally not. Just think they are looking pretty good at the moment.

[Ozza]

Re: Michael Talia

I'd be very surprised if Boyd and Morris played on past next year. Bob would almost certainly have 2 left - and even then, injury free - he may have further.

I would never want to underestimate Dale Morris - but to me, he seems the closest to the cliff, and it could happen anytime next year. Boyd, I suspect, will get 15 or so games out of himself playing 2 out of every 3 with some management.

[soupman]

Re: Michael Talia

I'd be very surprised if Boyd and Morris played on past next year. Bob would almost certainly have 2 left - and even then, injury free - he may have further.

I would never want to underestimate Dale Morris - but to me, he seems the closest to the cliff, and it could happen anytime next year. Boyd, I suspect, will get 15 or so games out of himself playing 2 out of every 3 with some management.

I swear I wrote this exact same post a year ago.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Michael Talia

I'd be very surprised if Boyd and Morris played on past next year. Bob would almost certainly have 2 left - and even then, injury free - he may have further.

I would never want to underestimate Dale Morris - but to me, he seems the closest to the cliff, and it could happen anytime next year. Boyd, I suspect, will get 15 or so games out of himself playing 2 out of every 3 with some management.

I swear I wrote this exact same post a year ago.

I wanted Boyd to go with Griff and Cooney. I get he is older but I think there's a bit of a gap between All-Australian notation/selection and being past it.

Morris I agree looks like he can finish soonest. The thing is he may also last the longest. When he is gone, we will know it. At the moment he is massive for our team. He can play small-tall which really helps our inexperienced team.

[ratsmac]

Re: Michael Talia

I wanted Boyd to go with Griff and Cooney. I get he is older but I think there's a bit of a gap between All-Australian notation/selection and being past it.

Morris I agree looks like he can finish soonest. The thing is he may also last the longest. When he is gone, we will know it. At the moment he is massive for our team. He can play small-tall which really helps our inexperienced team.

Can we please not talk about Morris retiring.... It upsets me

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Michael Talia

Morris I agree looks like he can finish soonest. The thing is he may also last the longest. When he is gone, we will know it. At the moment he is massive for our team. He can play small-tall which really helps our inexperienced team.

Not sure about this.

When we missed Morris for a chunk of the season we were fine. He had a relatively good season when he came back, although he was beaten v Adelaide.

As good as Morris has been, he's not what he used to be. We'll be OK when he retires, it's finding a genuine CHB/FB that concerns me.

[Greystache]

Re: Michael Talia

Not sure about this.

When we missed Morris for a chunk of the season we were fine. He had a relatively good season when he came back, although he was beaten v Adelaide.

As good as Morris has been, he's not what he used to be. We'll be OK when he retires, it's finding a genuine CHB/FB that concerns me.

I still have concerns about our lack of a lockdown small defender. Morris has been covering up this hole somewhat, but seeing Eddie Betts get hold of us in the elim final highlighted it again. We have a lot of good small rebounding defenders, but none that I'd say a strong defensively.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

I still have concerns about our lack of a lockdown small defender. Morris has been covering up this hole somewhat, but seeing Eddie Betts get hold of us in the elim final highlighted it again. We have a lot of good small rebounding defenders, but none that I'd say a strong defensively.

Thoughts Honeychurch could do this?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Michael Talia

I still have concerns about our lack of a lockdown small defender. Morris has been covering up this hole somewhat, but seeing Eddie Betts get hold of us in the elim final highlighted it again. We have a lot of good small rebounding defenders, but none that I'd say a strong defensively.

Yep - agree and was thinking this after the Brisbane game.

One thing I'd say is that it is typically easier to find lockdown small defenders than it is to find flashy rebounders or KPDs. Be it from a state league or through the draft, I think we can address this soon enough.

[Greystache]

Re: Michael Talia

Thoughts Honeychurch could do this?

No chance for me. He's competitive but not overly quick or agile, and is very short. I think he'd get badly exposed.

I'm of the view you need to be a bit taller than the small forward you're playing on to give you the extra reach to spoil on the lead and in the air. 185-190cm with elite speed and agility. Basically what Morris was. Wood is a better chance but I don't think he has the agility or smarts for the job. He's more a bull at the gate type.

[Greystache]

Re: Michael Talia

Yep - agree and was thinking this after the Brisbane game.

One thing I'd say is that it is typically easier to find lockdown small defenders than it is to find flashy rebounders or KPDs. Be it from a state league or through the draft, I think we can address this soon enough.

I wish we would, I've been concerned about it for 3 years and we're no closer to finding that player. I'm not so convinced it's easy to find one, although Essendon did get two from Frankston alone.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

No chance for me. He's competitive but not overly quick or agile, and is very short. I think he'd get badly exposed.

I'm of the view you need to be a bit taller than the small forward you're playing on to give you the extra reach to spoil on the lead and in the air. 185-190cm with elite speed and agility. Basically what Morris was. Wood is a better chance but I don't think he has the agility or smarts for the job. He's more a bull at the gate type.

Bailey Dale (Morris) for the job?