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  • whythelongface
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2007
    • 4456

    Re: Michael Talia

    Originally posted by Greystache
    He turned up for his end of season exit interview and was told to leave the premises.
    Not that I am doubting you but is this for real, as in wow this is serious stuff. Papers basically stamped never to return to WO.

    Big call but if he has lost the trust of the playing and coaching group well then there is no point in returning.

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    • bulldogsthru&thru
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • May 2011
      • 7708

      Re: Michael Talia

      Originally posted by whythelongface
      Not that I am doubting you but is this for real, as in wow this is serious stuff. Papers basically stamped never to return to WO.

      Big call but if he has lost the trust of the playing and coaching group well then there is no point in returning.
      When was this end of season review? Because Talia has been in Bali when all this has been unfolding - and in Bali with some of his teammates.

      FWIW - has Talia's name ever been brought up in any release from the Dogs? As far as i can tell its the media putting his name out there.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66580

        Re: Michael Talia

        Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
        When was this end of season review? Because Talia has been in Bali when all this has been unfolding - and in Bali with some of his teammates.

        FWIW - has Talia's name ever been brought up in any release from the Dogs? As far as i can tell its the media putting his name out there.
        End of season reviews were last week sometime between, Monday to Wednesday and then the players were off.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • F'scary
          WOOF Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 4089

          Re: Michael Talia

          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
          When was this end of season review? Because Talia has been in Bali when all this has been unfolding - and in Bali with some of his teammates.

          FWIW - has Talia's name ever been brought up in any release from the Dogs? As far as i can tell its the media putting his name out there.
          He'll have time now to chew it over a few milkshakes.
          Officially on the Bus-wagon

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Michael Talia

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            When was this end of season review? Because Talia has been in Bali when all this has been unfolding - and in Bali with some of his teammates.

            FWIW - has Talia's name ever been brought up in any release from the Dogs? As far as i can tell its the media putting his name out there.
            The AFLPA said the issue was between two brothers, one with Adeliade and one with the dogs.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13228

              Re: Michael Talia

              Originally posted by Rocket Science
              Wow. That's that then.



              "Michael Talia sleeps with the fishes."
              Your best yet - thanks.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13228

                Re: Michael Talia

                For all the flak he is now going to cop over the remainder of his footy career I honestly hope he retires from the AFL. We can then cry foul and request a priority pick
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • Dry Rot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6444

                  Re: Michael Talia

                  Can anyone honestly see any other team than the Crows taking him now?

                  First, he boned us giving away match day info, and now his trade value is almost zero.
                  The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13228

                    Re: Michael Talia

                    I think the Cows will drop him like a bag of spuds. Would you trust him with sensitive match day info?
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Michael Talia

                      Originally posted by 1eyedog
                      I think the Cows will drop him like a bag of spuds. Would you trust him with sensitive match day info?
                      Depends on the circumstances behind the transfer of information (there is so much we don't know). He was linked to the Crows a long time before this. If they turn their backs on him as a result of this becoming public, it could be very messy internally.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66580

                        Re: Michael Talia

                        Stevo's Sting: What's next for Michael Talia?


                        You have to feel for Harvey Stevens.


                        There are no winners in the "Ta-ta Talia" story, but the 85-year-old Bulldogs premiership hero must be broken hearted.


                        Perhaps he's the biggest loser of all.


                        Stevens played ruck in the '54 flag and is the grandfather of Michael and Daniel Talia.


                        Michael was given Stevens' No.32 and the pair spoke gleefully and posed for photos in the days after the young defender was drafted to the kennel.


                        "I have been following [the Dogs] since my early days," Stevens said at the time.


                        "I used to live in one of those houses right across the road from the ground (Whitten Oval). There's a lot of tradition."


                        That tradition at the Dogs hasn't been tarnished in recent days. It's been shredded.


                        Well known Bulldog fan Tony Leonard has more chance of playing for his beloved club next year than Michael Talia.


                        By now you've heard the accusations that Talia leaked info to his Crows brother in the lead up to the elimination final.


                        The Dogs have remained silent publicly. But this has been viewed as betrayal by some within.


                        It's a strong word betrayal, but it's been used.


                        Rest assured, the club and coach Luke Beverdige have been cut deeply. He is a loyal, passionate and at times emotional man, Beveridge, and it is no surprise he has refused to answer Talia's calls.




                        The Talias say it was just a brotherly chat. The AFL Players' Association were quick to dismiss it. The Crows say there's nothing in it, predictably declaring they didn't use any info anyway.


                        But there is genuine at the Dogs. Fury doesn't come without good reason. They must be convinced by the evidence at hand.


                        Ben Stratton, via Kyle Cheney, must have told his old Hawthorn mate Beveridge something alarming.


                        There's talk about detail of a tagging role for Tory Dickson and tactics involving Jake Stringer being revealed, but for now, as the integrity department of the AFL goes to work, there is no official explanation about why the Dogs are barking mad.


                        It's an interesting one for the integrity department. You get the feeling the probe will run out of steam, judging by past investigations.


                        I'm tipping the insufficient evidence line will get a run, as well as the friendly brotherly chat line trotted out by the AFLPA.


                        It's going to be very difficult to pin down the Talias on this.


                        Regardless, so much damage has been done. Talia will be traded, his place on the list a little precarious before this anyway.


                        The former Dogs coach Brendan McCartney refused to play Talia for most of 2014, leaving him in the VFL.


                        Talia started the season well under Beverdige and McCartney, to some, was made look like a dill?


                        How could he not play in 2014 ahead of Mark Austin? That was the obvious question.


                        But McCartney had doubts about his ability to defend and hold up in one on one battles. The old coach was proven correct this year as Talia fell away, struggling to hold his ground against the big forwards.


                        The Dogs will receive compo via a trade an attempt to move on quickly.


                        It is going to be tougher for the legend that is Harvey Stevens to move on.


                        No doubt the 85 year old will put his grandkids first.


                        Where does that leave his passion for his beloved club?


                        A likely exoneration from the AFL will do little to ease the pain.
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13228

                          Re: Michael Talia

                          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                          Depends on the circumstances behind the transfer of information (there is so much we don't know). He was linked to the Crows a long time before this. If they turn their backs on him as a result of this becoming public, it could be very messy internally.
                          No shying away from that I'm afraid. It already is.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Michael Talia

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            No shying away from that I'm afraid. It already is.
                            What I mean is, if the Crows have accepted information from him (perhaps even actively sought it for all we know), they can hardly turn their backs on him now that it has become public. If they do so, the damage done to their club could be only worsened, especially when one of their star players is his brother and also seemingly implicated.

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13228

                              Re: Michael Talia

                              Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                              What I mean is, if the Crows have accepted information from him (perhaps even actively sought it for all we know), they can hardly turn their backs on him now that it has become public. If they do so, the damage done to their club could be only worsened, especially when one of their star players is his brother and also seemingly implicated.
                              It all hinges on the investigation of the integrity unit. I'm not holding my breath on that one. I can see someone breaking ranks, whether its Cheney or Stratton or a dark mysterious figure we know that things have already been said and a broad cross section of people are in the know of what actually transpired.

                              I don't expect us to ease the pressure off the accelarator, not with PG driving but I think Michael might be under the pump a bit with this one and the decision to trade may be taken out of his hands. If Daniel wants to crack the sads he can make his own decisions. What I am saying is this could o either way, but the evidence is out there it seems and Adelaide may very well not even get the opportuntiy to stand by him.

                              We'll see I suppose.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11866

                                Re: Michael Talia

                                Originally posted by bornadog


                                But there is genuine at the Dogs.
                                Good to know. Are all our bases belong to Stevo?
                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Talia started the season well under Beverdige and McCartney, to some, was made look like a dill?
                                Is he unsure about this statement?
                                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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