Michael Talia

[Twodogs]

Re: Michael Talia

Whoops, wrong thread.

Thought so.

[westdog54]

Re: Michael Talia

Thought so.

Following suit from the AFL, putting something else up as a distraction.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

Following suit from the AFL, putting something else up as a distraction.

Classic 'Chewbacca Defence' by TwoDogs.

[Greystache]

Re: Michael Talia

Classic 'Chewbacca Defence' by TwoDogs.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

Great catch. I wiki the phrase and it's now a common term used by professionals in USA.

[KT31]

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Kind of makes me glad Clayton is not with us anymore.

This is what it took ?

[chef]

Re: Michael Talia

This is what it took ?

I guess it's just another reminder. Amazing how badly he's stuffed up GC's list with all the leg ups he's had.

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

I guess it's just another reminder. Amazing how badly he's stuffed up GC's list with all the leg ups he's had.

I'll defend him just a little, you can bring talented people into the wrong environment and they might never get close to their potential.
I think this is the case at GC. Some great players but there is probably a lack of leadership depth. The culture hasn't been right and possibly still needs plenty of work.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

Hard to work out what the problem is at GCS. This year they've had 3 players retire due to lack of passion/interest (Andrew Boston, 21, Tim Sumner, 21, and Josh Glenn, 21). When you've got multiple 21 year olds walking away from contracts and the game, there are serious issues.

You'd reckon playing AFL and living on the Gold Coast would be a dream life for a 21 year old (I wouldn't have minded), but for some reason, sporting clubs there seem to constantly fail. The Bears were tanking until transferred to Brisbane, 2 NRL teams have folded with a third struggling and A-League and NBL teams have also quickly folded. Successful ventures there = 0.

Seems a graveyard for a region with so much going for it.

[chef]

Re: Michael Talia

I'll defend him just a little, you can bring talented people into the wrong environment and they might never get close to their potential.
I think this is the case at GC. Some great players but there is probably a lack of leadership depth. The culture hasn't been right and possibly still needs plenty of work.

I guess thats part of being a recruiter, it's not just about football talent. The 'right character', leadership etc also need to be taken into account.

I do think they dropped the ball compared with GWS in terms of bringing in the right older players too as well as their list has a heap more holes in it.

[GVGjr]

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I guess thats part of being a recruiter, it's not just about football talent. The 'right character', leadership etc also need to be taken into account.

I do think they dropped the ball compared with GWS in terms of bringing in the right older players too as well as their list has a heap more holes in it.

As much as I hate to say it, Sheedy was insistent on the right culture being implemented from the start. As a comparison the laid back lifestyle of GC and a lot of youngsters without the right leadership isn't a great recipe.
Many youngsters, not all, with the right character can get distracted if they hang around with the wrong people.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Re: Michael Talia

Wait, what? Is this all in the wrong thread?

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Hard to work out what the problem is at GCS. This year they've had 3 players retire due to lack of passion/interest (Andrew Boston, 21, Tim Sumner, 21, and Josh Glenn, 21). When you've got multiple 21 year olds walking away from contracts and the game, there are serious issues.

You'd reckon playing AFL and living on the Gold Coast would be a dream life for a 21 year old (I wouldn't have minded), but for some reason, sporting clubs there seem to constantly fail. The Bears were tanking until transferred to Brisbane, 2 NRL teams have folded with a third struggling and A-League and NBL teams have also quickly folded. Successful ventures there = 0.

Seems a graveyard for a region with so much going for it.

Great post. Very interesting reading.

[Twodogs]

Re: Michael Talia

I'll defend him just a little, you can bring talented people into the wrong environment and they might never get close to their potential.
I think this is the case at GC. Some great players but there is probably a lack of leadership depth. The culture hasn't been right and possibly still needs plenty of work.

The problem is the drafting concessions-especially the early picks-were originally granted with the expectation that they would be traded to the other clubs for really blue chip players thereby instituting that culture. They weren't supposed to be hoarded by the expansion clubs so they had all the early picks on one draft. They were supposed to be circulated back to the clubs in return for ready to go players.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Michael Talia

Same with the mini draft. That turned out to be another afl fail.