Michael Talia

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

Do we owe Talia an apology and should Cheney have stepped forward straight away when the AFL started it's investigation?

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Re: Michael Talia

Do we owe Talia an apology and should Cheney have stepped forward straight away when the AFL started it's investigation?

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Funny if not so serious. One lost his phone. The other deleted messages. #AFLGullabilityUnit

[F'scary]

Re: Michael Talia

It all reads very strangely - a bit "nothing to see here"

[comrade]

Re: Michael Talia

When does anyone ever delete a message that isn't incriminating?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

When does anyone ever delete a message that isn't incriminating?

And when does anyone believe it... 'Oh Benji, I see you don't have text messages on your phone from Carl about Victor Pierce. I guess there's nothing to see here then. Case closed'.

There's general incompetence, but when you're fed lines like 'nah, it was a joke despite 3 convos with 2 people', 'I lost my phone' and 'I deleted the messages' and then actually believe it. That's a badly handled cover up or the AFL gullibility unit staff have a collective IQ below 50 combined.

[whythelongface]

Re: Michael Talia

Do we owe Talia an apology and should Cheney have stepped forward straight away when the AFL started it's investigation?

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Someone certainly does. We only acted based on the information that we were presented which came direct from one of the players involved being Cheney. It seems we trusted Cheney's words above Talias. Cheney is the one that needs to be punished for fabricating a story and continue to fabricate this story, whilst fully knowing he was lying.

[whythelongface]

Re: Michael Talia

And when does anyone believe it... 'Oh Benji, I see you don't have text messages on your phone from Carl about Victor Pierce. I guess there's nothing to see here then. Case closed'.

There's general incompetence, but when you're fed lines like 'nah, it was a joke despite 3 convos with 2 people', 'I lost my phone' and 'I deleted the messages' and then actually believe it. That's a badly handled cover up or the AFL gullibility unit staff have a collective IQ below 50 combined.

Either way Cheney is the player feeding the lies and should cop some form of punishment.

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

I find it hard to believe that in a long and thorough investigation and one where the integrity of a playing mate is being questioned Cheney's story only 'changed' late in proceedings. I would have thought he would have come clean straight away otherwise it would be deemed an act of cowardice for him not to clear his team mate once he was placed under immense scrutiny. Are we to believe that reputations have been tarnished because of Cheney's sense of humour and all he will get is a warning for being a naughty boy?
At the very least Cheney should be suspended by the Crows for bringing their club into disrepute.

A more cynical person would think the evidence has somehow changed conveniently in line with an outcome the AFL wanted all along.

[I'm Not Bitter Anymore!]

Re: Michael Talia

I hope Sydney play Adelaide in a final next year

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

Either way Cheney is the player feeding the lies and should cop some form of punishment.

That's if you believe his change of story. He told Stratton and Bevo one story and maintained it. It looks like his team mate and club might get in the shite because he blabbed... Then after talking to his club he decides to say he lied and so said team mate and club are off the hook and he gets a stern word. I may be a hardened skepitc and spent too many years working out truth from lies, liars and motivations for lying, but I don't for a second believe any of this. Not a bit. Compounding it with a missing phone and deleted texts from the both then....

So question:

Why did Cheney have one single consistent story to Stratton & Bevo over 3 seperate conversations?
Who benefits from Cheney changing his story?
Why didn't Tahyleea end up at Adelaide for free if they knew this cleared them both?
Why didn't any other club go for him knowing the rumours that would've circled that Cheney was changing his story?
Is Bevo a good judge of character and seem competent to judge the truthfulness of Stratton & Cheney who he's known for many years?
Is it too convenient both brothers lost/deleted the evidence?

Cheney is a dead set patsy and focussing attention on the patsy is what the AFL, Adelaide and Tahleeyas want.

[I'm Not Bitter Anymore!]

Re: Michael Talia

Stinks to high heaven

[Twodogs]

Re: Michael Talia

I find it hard to believe that in a long and thorough investigation and one where the integrity of a playing mate is being questioned Cheney story only 'changed' late in proceedings. I would have thought he would have come clean straight away otherwise it would be deemed an act of cowardice for him not to clear his team mate once he was placed under immense scrutiny. Are we to believe that reputations have been tarnished because of Cheney's sense of humour and all he will get is a warning for being a naughty boy?
At the very least Cheney should be suspended by the Crows for bringing their club into disrepute.

A more cynical person would think the evidence has somehow changed conveniently in line with an outcome the AFL wanted all along.

I'm the most cynical person in the world and I don't belive this change of story is genuine.

How do you get 4 corners to look into something?

Here we go

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/contact/

It says comment in less than 150 words. We could use some of the bullet points posters have listed

[Flamethrower]

Re: Michael Talia

I hope Sydney play Adelaide in a final next year

I hope it's 17 vs 18.

[jeemak]

Re: Michael Talia

He admitted to fabricating the story under duress! They're not even pretending any more.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

He admitted to fabricating the story under duress! They're not even pretending any more.

To be fair, they consulted Dick Cheney & Don Rumsfeld and both men agreed water boarding is not torture. So it wasn't torture.