Michael Talia

[LostDoggy]

Re: Michael Talia

There's a Stench in the air and it's coming from AFL House.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Michael Talia

So if my mate, someone I trust, came up to me and said "hey, I was talking to Carlos last night and he reckons he's been sleeping with your girl. They send dick pics!", and then my girlfriend found out I knew and 'lost her phone', and old mate Carlos ADMITTED to deleting messages, AFL logic suggests nothing to see there???

Are they serious??

[azabob]

Re: Michael Talia

To be fair, they consulted Dick Cheney & Don Rumsfeld and both men agreed water boarding is not torture. So it wasn't torture.

But BT, don't forget there are known, knowns and unknown, knowns.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Michael Talia

But BT, don't forget there are known, knowns and unknown, knowns.

And then this, a Unknowns Unknowns. We might have to check if Cheney was having his post season 'holiday' in Cuba or on a non stop rendition flight between countries...

[Bornadog]

Re: Michael Talia

Just read this and the story doesn't add up. Sorry AFL, something is rotten in Denmark

[Greystache]

Re: Michael Talia

And the AFL wonders why people are losing interest in the sport in droves. North Korea would look at those findings and say they're hard to believe.

For starters you can delete a text message off a phone but you can't delete a message from the telcos database, that's how they catch criminals and terrorists. To put that in their findings prove it's a cover up and is an amateur error.

Everyone was wondering why it was taking so long for the AFL to find nothing, the answer was Cheney wouldn't withdraw his statement until they threatened and intimidated him for long enough. Seriously this competition is run by numpties who think people don't realise how corrupt it is. If I cared enough I'd look into having the findings brought into question, but who really cares about AFL footy enough anymore to bother?

[josie]

Re: Michael Talia

I am officially disenchanted with the Afl. Naive enough to think delays meant something serious, not the complete debacle this is. I really hope the truth comes out. Bloody disgrace. Looking on bright side these obstacles will galvanise our grand club, just like shocktober. GO DOGS!!!

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

And the AFL wonders why people are losing interest in the sport in droves. North Korea would look at those findings and say they're hard to believe.

For starters you can delete a text message off a phone but you can't delete a message from the telcos database, that's how they catch criminals and terrorists. To put that in their findings prove it's a cover up and is an amateur error.

Everyone was wondering why it was taking so long for the AFL to find nothing, the answer was Cheney wouldn't withdraw his statement until they threatened and intimidated him for long enough. Seriously this competition is run by numpties who think people don't realise how corrupt it is. If I cared enough I'd look into having the findings brought into question, but who really cares about AFL footy enough anymore to bother?

We need a twitter campaign along the lines of #AFLStopTheRot

[the strath doggie]

Re: Michael Talia

I agree, however, if what Cheney is alleged to be now saying is true he should be heavily fined, not just warned. We lost a player that we invested a lot of energy into. Perhaps the AFL should give us a compensation pick.

[azabob]

Re: Michael Talia

I agree, however, if what Cheney is alleged to be now saying is true he should be heavily fined, not just warned. We lost a player that we invested a lot of energy into. Perhaps the AFL should give us a compensation pick.

Talia was always leaving regardless.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Re: Michael Talia

Either way Cheney is the player feeding the lies and should cop some form of punishment.

I suspect the opposite. Cheney has initially told the truth but the case blew up with the Dogs reporting it and showing Talia the door. Cheney realises that his word is the lynchpin of what happens and after talking with everyone, takes the flak and says he was joking to save the Talia family name and to limit the utilitarian damage, including his own role as executioner. The main victims (he reasons) of his change of public stance are large, strong institutions that can carry it better than the individuals involved, being Truth and The Western Bulldogs.
Cheney has served the Western Bulldogs by letting them know of the betrayal by Michael Talia so they can weed him out, which is the important part for us. The penalty or public ignorance is less important for us. We are going on to better things. Plenty of people out there will be able to work out what happened so we won't lose credibility or respect in the matter.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Michael Talia

God almighty the AFL is a minefield of corruption and incompetence. Do they really think the general public is so STUPID?

Their 'investigations' into tanking, their 'not guilty' verdict for the bombers, and now this.

They must be held to account by someone sometime.

What a complete and utter shambles.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Michael Talia

LOL. I literally did when I read about the outcome.

Could this result be any more ludicrous? Deleted texts, lost phone and a joke from Cheney in the 11th hour and this one is settled. I'm sure they went through this case with a fine toothed comb.

[GVGjr]

Re: Michael Talia

I agree, however, if what Cheney is alleged to be now saying is true he should be heavily fined, not just warned. We lost a player that we invested a lot of energy into. Perhaps the AFL should give us a compensation pick.

This is where the whole outcome is questionable.

I think we are being asked to believe that Cheney told Stratton and then Beveridge a lie and then when the intense pressure focused on the Talia brothers he didn't try and come clean preferring to allow his team mate and fellow defender in Daniel and Daniels brother Michael have their ethics questioned while still he held firm on his concocted story.
It's only after Michael and the Bulldogs had an acrimonious split and the AFL placed Cheney under a lot of pressure to come clean that his story switched that it was all just a big laugh.
So after many weeks of expense, many weeks of angst for two clubs and two brothers and the AFL where Cheney allowed all and sundry to have their reputations tarnished the net sum of his shenanigans is a strong warning?

I'd expect that the AFL would come down a lot harder and I'd also expect Adelaide to suspend or sack him for simply not coming clean when the shit started getting real. The fact that they haven't places a bigger question on the way this investigation has been conducted.

Get the brothers to agree for their text message exchanges during that questionable period to be made available to the AFL and if their story holds true then the matter would be cleared up and Cheney could be judged on his contribution to the whole investigation. If they don't agree then clearly they have something to hide.

[Twodogs]

Re: Michael Talia

This is where the whole outcome is questionable.

I think we are being asked to believe that Cheney told Stratton and then Beveridge a lie and then when the intense pressure focused on the Talia brothers he didn't try and come clean preferring to allow his team mate and fellow defender in Daniel and Daniels brother Michael have their ethics questioned while still he held firm on his concocted story.
It's only after Michael and the Bulldogs had an acrimonious split and the AFL placed Cheney under a lot of pressure to come clean that his story switched that it was all just a big laugh.
So after many weeks of expense, many weeks of angst for two clubs and two brothers and the AFL where Cheney allowed all and sundry to have their reputations tarnished the net sum of his shenanigans is a strong warning?

I'd expect that the AFL would come down a lot harder and I'd also expect Adelaide to suspend or sack him for simply not coming clean when the shit started getting real. The fact that they haven't places a bigger question on the way this investigation has been conducted.

Get the brothers to agree for their text message exchanges during that questionable period to be made available to the AFL and if their story holds true then the matter would be cleared up and Cheney could be judged on his contribution to the whole investigation. If they don't agree then clearly they have something to hide.

Well said Gary. A large part of that will be in my notes to 4 Corners.
The text messages have to be retrieved and reviewed at the very least.