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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21803

    Re: Michael Talia

    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
    Rocket did mention it once in an interview.
    You can't tell me clubs have never tried various ways to get information.
    I know one club put someone in a tree once outside a training ground. Sure there are other ways.
    Sending a guy up a tree is one thing........but tapping phones?
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27654

      Re: Michael Talia

      Tapping a phone isn't necessarily illegal. It depends on whether you are party to the call or not.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • KT31
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jul 2008
        • 5454

        Re: Michael Talia

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        Tapping a phone isn't necessarily illegal. It depends on whether you are party to the call or not.
        This is why I never call.
        It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14915

          Re: Michael Talia

          Originally posted by Twodogs
          Tapping a phone isn't necessarily illegal. It depends on whether you are party to the call or not.
          Recording a call even if you are the A or B party is illegal if you don't record express permission.
          Only authorised persons can intercept a phone call so if someone is listening to a call then they would certainly be able to be charged.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66580

            Re: Michael Talia

            Originally posted by azabob
            Phones tapped? Seriously?
            Aza like you cannot believe that happened and besides what is someone going to learn over a phone.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27654

              Re: Michael Talia

              Originally posted by Mofra
              Recording a call even if you are the A or B party is illegal if you don't record express permission.
              Only authorised persons can intercept a phone call so if someone is listening to a call then they would certainly be able to be charged.
              It should be an easy defence though. "I was just mucking about with this new device I got from Dick Smith and bugger me I accidentally overheard what was being said in their coaches' box"
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Michael Talia

                Originally posted by Twodogs
                Tapping a phone isn't necessarily illegal. It depends on whether you are party to the call or not.
                Recording conversations (in person or Bluetooth etc) you're right to some extent, and if the parties knew and consented etc. But the actual tapping of phones requires a warrant, without it it's dead set illegal. But with the AFL suppressing the shite actions of anyone in the industry, they'd probably get away with it.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Michael Talia

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  It should be an easy defence though. "I was just mucking about with this new device I got from Dick Smith and bugger me I accidentally overheard what was being said in their coaches' box"
                  It'd be even easier to recruit a D grade defender into another club and get all the info first hand... That's completely above board...
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • WBFC4FFC
                    WOOF Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 397

                    Re: Michael Talia

                    Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                    Allegedly Talia was the dumbest bloke on our list. Zoolander type qualities.
                    Yes I have heard that as well, pre the whole affair occurring.

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14301

                      Re: Michael Talia

                      Sad thing is Talia is in next years calendar !
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        Re: Michael Talia

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        Sad thing is Talia is in next years calendar !
                        Heh! Some bloke I'd never seen before, Brian somebody I think it was, is on the front of this years.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • BornInDroopSt'54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 5238

                          Re: Michael Talia


                          THE AFL’s handling of the Talia brothers investigation has been ticked off by the state’s gambling watchdog.

                          The Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation announced last month it was considering launching its own probe into allegations parts of the Western Bulldogs game plan were leaked ahead of the club’s elimination final loss to Adelaide.

                          A VCGLR spokesman said the commission had recently met with the AFL and was “satisfied” with the league’s explanations.

                          As an approved sports controlling body, the AFL is compelled to notify the gambling authority of all potential integrity breaches.

                          No such notification was provided after the Western Bulldogs formally requested an AFL investigation into the alleged leaking of “game-sensitive” information between Michael and Daniel Talia in the days leading up to the Dogs-Crows final.

                          Bookmakers estimate up to $5 million was wagered on the match, which Adelaide won by just seven points....
                          VCGLR has recently met with the AFL and we are satisfied their inquiries into the Talia matter did not warrant notification to us as required under Victoria’s gambling laws,” a commission spokesman said.

                          “At this stage there is no need for the VCGLR to conduct further inquiries or an investigation.”

                          Asked why the AFL had not been in breach of its statutory obligations by failing to inform the VCGLR of the Talia allegations, the spokesman said: “We are satisfied with the information the AFL has provided the VCGLR and that no further action is required at this stage.”

                          The Bulldogs have declared they remain “troubled by certain aspects” of the AFL’s investigation that cleared both Talias of wrongdoing.

                          In its summary of findings, the AFL concluded that Adelaide defender Kyle Cheney had triggered the saga after he “inappropriately joked about a serious matter”.

                          It was later revealed that Cheney had called Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge in the days after the final and told him he feared for his AFL future if a complaint about the leaking of “game-sensitive” information was investigated.


                          Adelaide’s Kyle Cheney was issued with a warning by the AFL. Picture: Sarah Reed
                          Beveridge told investigators Cheney called him on September 16 and said he felt bad about being involved in the leak.

                          Cheney and Beveridge spoke again the next day before the Bulldogs asked the league to investigate on September 22.

                          The Bulldogs’ concerns about the investigation included the deletion of text messages on Daniel Talia’s phone and the loss of Michael Talia’s phone while on holiday in Bali.

                          Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has since asked why the AFL didn’t use its powers to obtain the deleted messages.

                          The allegations of leaked information took 63 days to investigate and tested 16 witnesses.

                          Michael Talia was traded from the Bulldogs to Sydney during the probe.

                          The VCGLR has the power to revoke the AFL’s licence to collect lucrative contract fees from accredited betting agencies.

                          It has previously investigated the league over the Melbourne tanking scandal and last year’s NAB Rising Star leak and taken little or no action.
                          Footscray Football Republic.

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27654

                            Re: Michael Talia

                            Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                            http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...91b79f26461a4b
                            THE AFL’s handling of the Talia brothers investigation has been ticked off by the state’s gambling watchdog.

                            The Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation announced last month it was considering launching its own probe into allegations parts of the Western Bulldogs game plan were leaked ahead of the club’s elimination final loss to Adelaide.

                            A VCGLR spokesman said the commission had recently met with the AFL and was “satisfied” with the league’s explanations.

                            As an approved sports controlling body, the AFL is compelled to notify the gambling authority of all potential integrity breaches.

                            No such notification was provided after the Western Bulldogs formally requested an AFL investigation into the alleged leaking of “game-sensitive” information between Michael and Daniel Talia in the days leading up to the Dogs-Crows final.

                            Bookmakers estimate up to $5 million was wagered on the match, which Adelaide won by just seven points....
                            VCGLR has recently met with the AFL and we are satisfied their inquiries into the Talia matter did not warrant notification to us as required under Victoria’s gambling laws,” a commission spokesman said.

                            “At this stage there is no need for the VCGLR to conduct further inquiries or an investigation.”

                            Asked why the AFL had not been in breach of its statutory obligations by failing to inform the VCGLR of the Talia allegations, the spokesman said: “We are satisfied with the information the AFL has provided the VCGLR and that no further action is required at this stage.”

                            The Bulldogs have declared they remain “troubled by certain aspects” of the AFL’s investigation that cleared both Talias of wrongdoing.

                            In its summary of findings, the AFL concluded that Adelaide defender Kyle Cheney had triggered the saga after he “inappropriately joked about a serious matter”.

                            It was later revealed that Cheney had called Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge in the days after the final and told him he feared for his AFL future if a complaint about the leaking of “game-sensitive” information was investigated.


                            Adelaide’s Kyle Cheney was issued with a warning by the AFL. Picture: Sarah Reed
                            Beveridge told investigators Cheney called him on September 16 and said he felt bad about being involved in the leak.

                            Cheney and Beveridge spoke again the next day before the Bulldogs asked the league to investigate on September 22.

                            The Bulldogs’ concerns about the investigation included the deletion of text messages on Daniel Talia’s phone and the loss of Michael Talia’s phone while on holiday in Bali.

                            Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has since asked why the AFL didn’t use its powers to obtain the deleted messages.

                            The allegations of leaked information took 63 days to investigate and tested 16 witnesses.

                            Michael Talia was traded from the Bulldogs to Sydney during the probe.

                            The VCGLR has the power to revoke the AFL’s licence to collect lucrative contract fees from accredited betting agencies.

                            It has previously investigated the league over the Melbourne tanking scandal and last year’s NAB Rising Star leak and taken little or no action.
                            Interesting finish. A bit of a toothless tiger perhaps?
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • BornInDroopSt'54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 5238

                              Re: Michael Talia

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Interesting finish. A bit of a toothless tiger perhaps?
                              The VCGLR has to be seen to be investigating, yet it's in its interests for no trouble to be found. Gamble away everyone.
                              Footscray Football Republic.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27654

                                Re: Michael Talia

                                Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                                The VCGLR has to be seen to be investigating, yet it's in its interests for no trouble to be found. Gamble away everyone.

                                Going through the motions for the good of society.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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