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  • Missing-Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 3102

    #106
    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

    Originally posted by jazzadogs
    So then the Roos send Goldstein and Daw to a stoppage, and Bont blocks Daw thinking that Goldstein is rucking...but Daw is the ruckman so it's a free kick against Bont? The 3rd man up rule is garbage, but they can't not nominate a ruckman if the rule is still in place.

    So just get rid of the 3rd man up rule.
    But that's it. Blocking is part of the issue. The game is designed to let everyone have an opportunity to get the ball within the framework of the rules. In that scenario, I'd be happy for the Bont to be penalised because if it was the other way around, we would be baying for blood. Let the players play.

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    • jazzadogs
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Oct 2008
      • 5837

      #107
      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

      Originally posted by craigsahibee
      But that's it. Blocking is part of the issue. The game is designed to let everyone have an opportunity to get the ball within the framework of the rules. In that scenario, I'd be happy for the Bont to be penalised because if it was the other way around, we would be baying for blood. Let the players play.
      Sorry, when I say block I mean making body contact. No matter what level of footy you play, you aim to keep contact with your opponent and stop them having a clear run at the ball. That should not be penalised.

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #108
        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

        On the topic of rules, I don't get it how you can jumper punch a bloke, or slap someone with ' minimal force', and cop just a small fine, yet you can just brush an umpire's hand and get a week. Ridiculous rubbish idiocy. It's a footy field with adrenaline and fast reactions. Hawkins never meant any harm.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67681

          #109
          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          On the topic of rules, I don't get it how you can jumper punch a bloke, or slap someone with ' minimal force', and cop just a small fine, yet you can just brush an umpire's hand and get a week. Ridiculous rubbish idiocy. It's a footy field with adrenaline and fast reactions. Hawkins never meant any harm.

          Feel free to move if not in the right thread.
          You can't touch an umpire full stop
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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #110
            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

            Originally posted by bornadog
            You can't touch an umpire full stop
            Liam Picken broke an umpire's ACL. So what was his penalty?
            According to your logic he should have been penalised much more heavily.
            What matters is intent and there has to be some kind of common sense.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27681

              #111
              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

              Originally posted by jazzadogs
              Sorry, when I say block I mean making body contact. No matter what level of footy you play, you aim to keep contact with your opponent and stop them having a clear run at the ball. That should not be penalised.
              But there's a difference to keeping a hand on your opponent so you know where he is while you're watching the ball to just standing in front of him just to block his path to the ball.

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              On the topic of rules, I don't get it how you can jumper punch a bloke, or slap someone with ' minimal force', and cop just a small fine, yet you can just brush an umpire's hand and get a week. Ridiculous rubbish idiocy. It's a footy field with adrenaline and fast reactions. Hawkins never meant any harm.

              Feel free to move if not in the right thread.
              Don't agree. You can't intentionally touch an umpire. I'm all for playing the game vigorously but between opponents, leave the umpires to umpire unmolested.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67681

                #112
                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                Liam Picken broke the ACL of an umpire. What matters is intent and there has to be some kind of common sense.
                Not rubbish at all, obviousley accidents can happen. Thems the rules
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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #113
                  Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  But there's a difference to keeping a hand on your opponent so you know where he is while you're watching the ball to just standing in front of him just to block his path to the ball.



                  Don't agree. You can't intentionally touch an umpire. I'm all for playing the game vigorously but between opponents, leave the umpires to umpire unmolested.
                  Watching the vision, It was an instant reaction and he was obviously a bit disoriented.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #114
                    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Not rubbish at all, obviousley accidents can happen. Thems the rules
                    On one hand you say " You can't touch an umpire full stop", in the next sentence, " obviously accidents happen". This is contradictory.
                    Hawkins' incident falls in the accident category or fine at best relative to so many other incidents including slaps to the head ( low-impact ) high contact, which is also supposed to be sacrosanct, or used to be.
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67681

                      #115
                      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      On one hand you say " You can't touch an umpire full stop", in the next sentence, " obviously accidents happen". This is contradictory.
                      Hawkins' incident falls in the accident category or fine at best relative to so many other incidents including slaps to the head ( low-impact ) high contact, which is also supposed to be sacrosanct, or used to be.
                      Accidents as in general play. Not when there is pushing and shoving happening and the umpire intervenes. Greg Williams got 9 weeks for pushing away an umpire. Hawkins lucky
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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27681

                        #116
                        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Accidents as in general play. Not when there is pushing and shoving happening and the umpire intervenes. Greg Williams got 9 weeks for pushing away an umpire. Hawkins lucky

                        Todd Curley had his career virtually finished because a clumsy umpire (McBurnie?) backed into him. He got four weeks because he's watching the ball (as he should have) when the idiot umpire runs backwards into him. There had been no talk about touching umpires beforehand, just "you play for the Bulldogs? Good you'll do. Consider yourself an example"
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 22147

                          #117
                          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Todd Curley had his career virtually finished because a clumsy umpire (McBurnie?) backed into him. He got four weeks because he's watching the ball (as he should have) when the idiot umpire runs backwards into him. There had been no talk about touching umpires beforehand, just "you play for the Bulldogs? Good you'll do. Consider yourself an example"
                          That was one of the moments when I first noticed the AFL putting out the "good oil" in the media to soften the public prior to a shocker being announced. Perhaps being a lot younger then, it might have been happening all the time well before I noticed.

                          No excuses for what Hawkins did. Deserved his week. The Diesel Williams decision was absolute bullshit, a week's about right.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            #118
                            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                            If it happened to a Bulldogs player, you guys would be livid. Hey what am I talking about? Ah yes it's a Cats player. Ok yes, he should've gotten two!
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • ReLoad
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1485

                              #119
                              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Todd Curley had his career virtually finished because a clumsy umpire (McBurnie?) backed into him. He got four weeks because he's watching the ball (as he should have) when the idiot umpire runs backwards into him. There had been no talk about touching umpires beforehand, just "you play for the Bulldogs? Good you'll do. Consider yourself an example"
                              Todd was never the same again after that, That was a total and utter blight on the AFL. So much so the week after in Adelaide we made a huge "Free Todd Curley" banner. if memory serves me right we got beat by Port? All I can remember of the game was drinking that rubbish West End and eating the most awful meat pie in the known galaxy.

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11960

                                #120
                                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                If it happened to a Bulldogs player, you guys would be livid. Hey what am I talking about? Ah yes it's a Cats player. Ok yes, he should've gotten two!
                                I'll admit it'd be hard to cop losing a player for that. At the same time it's a dumb thing to do
                                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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