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  • soupman
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2007
    • 5158

    #121
    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
    If it happened to a Bulldogs player, you guys would be livid.
    Nope.

    Any kind of intentional contact to an umpire should not be tolerated, soft as it may have been. A collision in the field of play or due to a lack of awareness from both parties maybe ok unless it's careless on behalf of the player, but a player deliberately initiating contact isn't on.
    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10241

      #122
      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

      I've heard this thing about Curley before, but he got suspended in the middle of the year right? How did it end his career exactly?

      He played all the games after he came back from suspension, and was only 28 when he got delisted.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 22147

        #123
        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

        Originally posted by Happy Days
        I've heard this thing about Curley before, but he got suspended in the middle of the year right? How did it end his career exactly?

        He played all the games after he came back from suspension, and was only 28 when he got delisted.
        It's said to have impacted him mentally, and he didn't seem to be the same player after the incident.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27681

          #124
          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          If it happened to a Bulldogs player, you guys would be livid. Hey what am I talking about? Ah yes it's a Cats player. Ok yes, he should've gotten two!
          Nup. I would be incredibly annoyed at the player who made contact with the umpire and I reckon his teammates would be feeling pretty angry and let down that they are running out without him in the weekend due to his own stupidity. I don't think one of them will be annoyed with the umpire but I wouldn't want to be Tom Hawkins turning up at Kardinia Park this week because his coaches and teammates will be making some fairly forceful points to him.

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          I've heard this thing about Curley before, but he got suspended in the middle of the year right? How did it end his career exactly?

          He played all the games after he came back from suspension, and was only 28 when he got delisted.
          Todd Curley never took a short step on the footy field in his life up until that day. When he came back it was as if he expected that idiot umpire to get in his way every time he took a step.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67681

            #125
            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            Todd Curley never took a short step on the footy field in his life up until that day. When he came back it was as if he expected that idiot umpire to get in his way every time he took a step.
            Lost all confidence and was never the same.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 22147

              #126
              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

              Gil wants less prior opportunity apparently.......



              I feel awful, I agree with the Scott brothers:

              "The Geelong coach, in response to Buckley's call, said eliminating prior opportunity would worsen congestion."

              But, they're right. Creating an incentive to tackle will just cause more folks to crowd the ball and prioritise tackling, and discourage players from taking clear possession.

              Tackling techniques are miles ahead of where they were when the prior opportunity rule was brought in. You can't remove prior opportunity without causing other issues that might prove just as if not more distasteful than the current congestion issue, whilst worsening the current congestion issue.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10241

                #127
                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                Originally posted by jeemak
                It's said to have impacted him mentally, and he didn't seem to be the same player after the incident.
                Originally posted by Twodogs

                Todd Curley never took a short step on the footy field in his life up until that day. When he came back it was as if he expected that idiot umpire to get in his way every time he took a step.
                Still - kind of weird that he wasn't kept around to try and figure it out, no?
                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27681

                  #128
                  Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Still - kind of weird that he wasn't kept around to try and figure it out, no?
                  Not really. A large part of Todd's ability was his fearless attack on the ball and once he started second guessing himself his attack in the ball was no longer so fearless. He didn't go about his game in the same way.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #129
                    Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                    The Curley incident happened early in 2001 and he did play out the end of the year before he and the club jointly agreed it was best he head back to WA and local footy the next year. He did protest the original 4 week suspension and got it reduced to 2 weeks.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27681

                      #130
                      Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                      The bald facts are Curley had missed one game in the previous four years and had played 115 games in six years. The idiot umpire runs into him and all off a sudden he can't play anymore?

                      I have read, and I don't know how much I believe this, that this started off the field. That the copper/umpire and the indigineous Todd Curley had a run in off the field, the copper/umpire came off second best and decided to continue things on the field and take his revenge. I offer that as something I read on the Internet a while ago. It does make sense as to why the umpire deliberately ran into Curley.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #131
                        Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                        Originally posted by soupaman
                        Nope.

                        Any kind of intentional contact to an umpire should not be tolerated, soft as it may have been. A collision in the field of play or due to a lack of awareness from both parties maybe ok unless it's careless on behalf of the player, but a player deliberately initiating contact isn't on.
                        In all of my years watching sport, the only ones I've seen that tolerates any sort of contact to an official is Soccer and Major League Baseball and the carry-on that is tolerated there is absurd.

                        In the NFL/NBA/NHL, you make contact with an official that isn't incidental, you get an early shower. No ifs, ands, buts or maybes.

                        He may claim he thought he was pushing away someone else, but at the end of the day, he pushed the umpire.

                        He's lucky to only get a week.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67681

                          #132
                          Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                          Originally posted by westdog54
                          In all of my years watching sport, the only ones I've seen that tolerates any sort of contact to an official is Soccer and Major League Baseball and the carry-on that is tolerated there is absurd.

                          In the NFL/NBA/NHL, you make contact with an official that isn't incidental, you get an early shower. No ifs, ands, buts or maybes.

                          He may claim he thought he was pushing away someone else, but at the end of the day, he pushed the umpire.

                          He's lucky to only get a week.
                          Agree, if he was let off, then that would open up a can of worms.
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • westdog54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6686

                            #133
                            Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                            Last night showed just how little the football world understand the sliding rule.

                            How Talia could complain about his free the way he did is beyond me.

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27681

                              #134
                              Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                              Originally posted by westdog54
                              Last night showed just how little the football world understand the sliding rule.

                              How Talia could complain about his free the way he did is beyond me.
                              I can see how he could complain-he's an idiot.. It didn't stop him being stupid and wrong in his complaints.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 67681

                                #135
                                Re: Are You Sick Of The Afl Changing Rules Every Year

                                Originally posted by westdog54
                                Last night showed just how little the football world understand the sliding rule.

                                How Talia could complain about his free the way he did is beyond me.
                                That rule is so wrong and was only brought in after one incident in 150 years.
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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