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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7345

    #31
    Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

    Originally posted by MrMahatma
    Lots of Bruce bashing in the Mach committee thread, but if we bring him in he’ll (hopefully) finally get an extended run with another key fwd.
    We recruited him to play alongside Naughton. We really haven't seen that happen all year...his effort and output has been below expectations but surely it is time to go 'all in' on our investment/pre-season strategy now that both are available...
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14915

      #32
      Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

      Originally posted by mjp
      We recruited him to play alongside Naughton. We really haven't seen that happen all year...his effort and output has been below expectations but surely it is time to go 'all in' on our investment/pre-season strategy now that both are available...
      Which one of Bruce or Naughton do you play deep?

      The original plan was Bruce deep, Naughton high but I'm wondering if we should swap them. Naughton is coming off injury and looked fantastic close to goal, and getting Bruce involved in the play by playing higher might get his confidence back up.
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      • bulldogsthru&thru
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • May 2011
        • 7708

        #33
        Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

        Originally posted by mjp
        We recruited him to play alongside Naughton. We really haven't seen that happen all year...his effort and output has been below expectations but surely it is time to go 'all in' on our investment/pre-season strategy now that both are available...
        Agree. Bruce has had his much needed rest. Naughton is hitting his straps. Let's see what they can do.

        In regards to who plays deep, Schache would have been the ultimate decoy for Naughton as that lead up forward. Why can't he just pull his finger out? It's very frustrating as he has the talent.

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        • dog town
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2007
          • 1914

          #34
          Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

          Originally posted by mjp
          We recruited him to play alongside Naughton. We really haven't seen that happen all year...his effort and output has been below expectations but surely it is time to go 'all in' on our investment/pre-season strategy now that both are available...
          This is one of the first times that the oppo need to make some decisions on personnel with Bruce as well. If Melbourne go in unchanged they have to decide whether to use May on Bruce or Naughton. Either way I think one of them will have a beneficial match up. Bruce has had some match ups that are well suited to him I’m not sure anyone outside of May will be able to compete with him when he engages contact.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18969

            #35
            Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

            Originally posted by dog town
            This is one of the first times that the oppo need to make some decisions on personnel with Bruce as well. If Melbourne go in unchanged they have to decide whether to use May on Bruce or Naughton. Either way I think one of them will have a beneficial match up. Bruce has had some match ups that are well suited to him I’m not sure anyone outside of May will be able to compete with him when he engages contact.
            I like the idea of Lever on Naughton.
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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10133

              #36
              Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              I like the idea of Lever on Naughton.
              BBQ Chicken. Lever has been really poor pretty much his entire tenure at the Dees.
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              • mjp
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7345

                #37
                Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                Originally posted by dog town
                This is one of the first times that the oppo need to make some decisions on personnel with Bruce as well. If Melbourne go in unchanged they have to decide whether to use May on Bruce or Naughton. Either way I think one of them will have a beneficial match up. Bruce has had some match ups that are well suited to him I’m not sure anyone outside of May will be able to compete with him when he engages contact.
                May takes Naughton...that's what he is getting paid the big bucks to do.
                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                • dog town
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 1914

                  #38
                  Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                  Originally posted by mjp
                  May takes Naughton...that's what he is getting paid the big bucks to do.
                  Which I think gives Bruce his best size and shape match up in months.

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                  • Ozza
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6412

                    #39
                    Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    Which one of Bruce or Naughton do you play deep?

                    The original plan was Bruce deep, Naughton high but I'm wondering if we should swap them. Naughton is coming off injury and looked fantastic close to goal, and getting Bruce involved in the play by playing higher might get his confidence back up.
                    I think if you look at Lynch and Riewoldt and how they play together there are times when Lynch is deepest and times Riewoldt is. Lynch probably more often - but it would appear to be determined on match ups and where they feel like they can get an advantage. Against Melbourne, I'd presume you would want to be getting May out of D50 where possible, get him up the ground, and then perhaps try and get him for pace looping back towards goal as well.

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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7708

                      #40
                      Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                      Originally posted by Ozza
                      I think if you look at Lynch and Riewoldt and how they play together there are times when Lynch is deepest and times Riewoldt is. Lynch probably more often - but it would appear to be determined on match ups and where they feel like they can get an advantage. Against Melbourne, I'd presume you would want to be getting May out of D50 where possible, get him up the ground, and then perhaps try and get him for pace looping back towards goal as well.
                      Naughton will eat him for breakfast here. Did you see his backwards loop against Talia? Magnificent.
                      Naughton I think has both May and Lever covered. May is more suited to Bruce but Lever on Naughton is a nightmare for Melbourne.

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                      • Bulldog4life
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 9607

                        #41
                        Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Which one of Bruce or Naughton do you play deep?

                        The original plan was Bruce deep, Naughton high but I'm wondering if we should swap them. Naughton is coming off injury and looked fantastic close to goal, and getting Bruce involved in the play by playing higher might get his confidence back up.
                        A more accurate kick close to goal too. Struggles further out.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44579

                          #42
                          Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          We recruited him to play alongside Naughton. We really haven't seen that happen all year...his effort and output has been below expectations but surely it is time to go 'all in' on our investment/pre-season strategy now that both are available...
                          Didn't we recruit Bruce to play in a forward line that supposedly was going to have 3 tall forwards in it?

                          Even allowing for this, is there really a good reason for to maintain a spot for an undeniably out of form player?
                          He might actually thrive as the 2nd banana in the forward line but we are paying him to play a more significant role.

                          I suspect we will do exactly what you are suggesting but I don't like hearing that other players aren't getting a game because of their form and yet Bruce gets named each week without really making a decent contribution
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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18005

                            #43
                            Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I suspect we will do exactly what you are suggesting but I don't like hearing that other players aren't getting a game because of their form and yet Bruce gets named each week without really making a decent contribution
                            As well as rewarding a player with game time when he clearly wasn't professional enough to keep himself in shape during the shutdown period. What sort of message does that send to blokes that are battling on the fringes?
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                            • CarnTheScray
                              Rookie List
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 129

                              #44
                              Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              I suspect we will do exactly what you are suggesting but I don't like hearing that other players aren't getting a game because of their form and yet Bruce gets named each week without really making a decent contribution
                              He ensures we aren't out-marked and takes attention away from Naughton. What players that play in the forward line aren't being selected?

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                              • CarnTheScray
                                Rookie List
                                • Mar 2020
                                • 129

                                #45
                                Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                Which one of Bruce or Naughton do you play deep?

                                The original plan was Bruce deep, Naughton high but I'm wondering if we should swap them. Naughton is coming off injury and looked fantastic close to goal, and getting Bruce involved in the play by playing higher might get his confidence back up.
                                I've always thought it was appropriate to have Naughton FF and Bruce HF. Then you ensure there is a contest at the edge of the forward line, and if we have any forced bombs, you have the best contested mark in the league to mark them.

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