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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44579

    #46
    Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

    Originally posted by CarnTheScray
    He ensures we aren't out-marked and takes attention away from Naughton. What players that play in the forward line aren't being selected?
    Do you think we went out and recruited a player to a long term deal to provide a rodeo clown type output?
    I know I'm being harsh there and apologies for that but I think you could find players on a vastly cheaper pay scale that could perform that type of role perhaps even better than what we have seen from Bruce

    I know he is going to play regardless of what I say and I do wish him the best but at some stage we have to put a level of expectation on him. Schache got dropped after one very bad game, Bruce has been poor for most of the season.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44579

      #47
      Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

      Originally posted by comrade
      As well as rewarding a player with game time when he clearly wasn't professional enough to keep himself in shape during the shutdown period. What sort of message does that send to blokes that are battling on the fringes?
      I actually trust the footy department to determine if he is fit and focused enough to play and I'm not sure his lack of form is weight related. He isn't making a contribution though and that is something the MC needs to be accountable for
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      • Danjul
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 1617

        #48
        Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Do you think we went out and recruited a player to a long term deal to provide a rodeo clown type output?
        I know I'm being harsh there and apologies for that but I think you could find players on a vastly cheaper pay scale that could perform that type of role perhaps even better than what we have seen from Bruce

        I know he is going to play regardless of what I say and I do wish him the best but at some stage we have to put a level of expectation on him. Schache got dropped after one very bad game, Bruce has been poor for most of the season.
        He got dropped during the game didn’t he. I thought he sat on the bench for half.

        And that’s after 11 possessions and 2 goals the week before.

        And I know this will get people furious but Naughton has not yet had 11 possessions in a game this season.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15291

          #49
          Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

          Originally posted by Danjul
          He got dropped during the game didn’t he. I thought he sat on the bench for half.

          And that’s after 11 possessions and 2 goals the week before.

          And I know this will get people furious but Naughton has not yet had 11 possessions in a game this season.
          We better drop Naughton then. Quality over Quantity my friend, quality over quantity.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Danjul
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 1617

            #50
            Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

            Originally posted by azabob
            We better drop Naughton then. Quality over Quantity my friend, quality over quantity.
            I would like to know the club’s definition of quality, because a forward who averages 2 goals a game, and gets them in most games is quality.

            4 Against Hawthorn gave us a win last year, multiple threes. I like him.

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18970

              #51
              Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

              Originally posted by Danjul
              He got dropped during the game didn’t he. I thought he sat on the bench for half.

              And that’s after 11 possessions and 2 goals the week before.

              And I know this will get people furious but Naughton has not yet had 11 possessions in a game this season.
              Naughton is the most exciting player we've ever had I think. Actually I'm so excited I have to keep telling myself to relax.
              Hes Chris Grant blended with Johnno with the swagger of Carey. Let's just pray injuries stay away.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • CarnTheScray
                Rookie List
                • Mar 2020
                • 129

                #52
                Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Naughton is the most exciting player we've ever had I think. Actually I'm so excited I have to keep telling myself to relax.
                He is isn't he? Been a long time since we've had a potential generational forward.

                The best part is he is only 20.

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15291

                  #53
                  Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                  Originally posted by Danjul
                  I would like to know the club’s definition of quality, because a forward who averages 2 goals a game, and gets them in most games is quality.

                  4 Against Hawthorn gave us a win last year, multiple threes. I like him.
                  I am all for Schache playing and I agree he should be played more by but comparing his and Naughtons output based on stats isn’t a great argument.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21803

                    #54
                    Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    I am all for Schache playing and I agree he should be played more by but comparing his and Naughtons output based on stats isn’t a great argument.
                    What do you mean? Why wouldn't March 2019 be a good indicator of current form?
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • Vred
                      Senior Player
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 1303

                      #55
                      Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                      Anyone know what’s going on with our indigenous jumper this round? Last team to post anything about it, already getting beat up by AFL fans about it as well, bad look for the club if you ask me.
                      [I][B]"Its always good to win the Ashes test match'' - Libba, AFL Grand Final, 2016[/B][/I]

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44579

                        #56
                        Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                        Originally posted by Vred
                        Anyone know what’s going on with our indigenous jumper this round? Last team to post anything about it, already getting beat up by AFL fans about it as well, bad look for the club if you ask me.
                        It's going to take something special to beat last years effort





                        WESTERN BULLDOGS

                        The 2019 jumper's design was created by renowned Indigenous artist Nathan Patterson.The personal story of Brett Goodes (brother of Swans champion Adam) is the inspiration and told through themes of family, culture and club. Goodes has a long association with the Bulldogs through a number of roles.
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                        • CarnTheScray
                          Rookie List
                          • Mar 2020
                          • 129

                          #57
                          Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Do you think we went out and recruited a player to a long term deal to provide a rodeo clown type output?
                          I know I'm being harsh there and apologies for that but I think you could find players on a vastly cheaper pay scale that could perform that type of role perhaps even better than what we have seen from Bruce

                          I know he is going to play regardless of what I say and I do wish him the best but at some stage we have to put a level of expectation on him. Schache got dropped after one very bad game, Bruce has been poor for most of the season.
                          I understand what you are saying and I can see where you are coming from.

                          Bruce is much more essential than Schache up forward. He may currently be in poor form but Schache would just go missing and not contribute anywhere near the level of physicality Bruce is, even if Bruce is dropping easy marks (slapping the ball rather than mark in fact). Don't forget he has also be double teamed due to Naughton's absence, though I am not trying to excuse him there.

                          Of course it is in the best interests of the club to get the most out of Bruce, which doesn't look like happening this season.
                          Last season he was also one of the top contested marks in the league. It doesn't help he has clearly gained weight. Once he is at full fitness again he will be better than whoever else we could've picked up and we will wonder what we were thinking.

                          If I'm wrong I'll spew up! At least JUH will be his quick replacement if he does not succeed.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21803

                            #58
                            Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                            Bruce TRIES HARD.

                            Naughton has been injured and if we plucked Bruce out we'd be relying on Schache who doesn't always try hard or Young who has clearly been discussed sufficiently around here anyway. The alternative in English can't hit the side of a barn etc...…….you know where I'm going with this.

                            It's not easy coming to a club, it's not easy doing so if not cherry ripe. Whatever the reasons for the latter piece the guys has been left to fight it out in the forward fifty himself for most of the year with a bunch of poor crumbing small to mid sized forwards in support who have been changing from week to week.

                            Just maybe, his form will improve once he has a partner to play with who also tries consistently with the rest hopefully adding the valuable support needed to make the forward line effective.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66580

                              #59
                              Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                              Originally posted by CarnTheScray
                              I understand what you are saying and I can see where you are coming from.

                              Bruce is much more essential than Schache up forward. He may currently be in poor form but Schache would just go missing and not contribute anywhere near the level of physicality Bruce is, even if Bruce is dropping easy marks (slapping the ball rather than mark in fact). Don't forget he has also be double teamed due to Naughton's absence, though I am not trying to excuse him there.

                              Of course it is in the best interests of the club to get the most out of Bruce, which doesn't look like happening this season.
                              Last season he was also one of the top contested marks in the league. It doesn't help he has clearly gained weight. Once he is at full fitness again he will be better than whoever else we could've picked up and we will wonder what we were thinking.

                              If I'm wrong I'll spew up! At least JUH will be his quick replacement if he does not succeed.
                              This is why he gets a game over Schache. Schache just doesn't seem to have the same intensity as Bruce.
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                              • boydogs
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5842

                                #60
                                Re: Why are people picking Melbourne to WIN?

                                Melbourne are weak as piss

                                Richmond absolutely toyed with them
                                If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                                Formerly gogriff

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