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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66580

    Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

    Originally posted by EasternWest
    No denying his arm hit Gaff, but it's incidental contact after a clean spoil. Play on. You guys are mad saying otherwise.

    If Gaff hadn't been split open it wouldn't even be coming up in conversation.
    Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14915

      Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
      I think it should have been a free.
      Then again, JJ is lucky not to have a broken jaw and that was play on too.
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      • Testekill
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 2327

        Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
        And Duryea should have gotten a free kick when he was taken high in a marking contest which resulted in an Eagles goal.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66580

          Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

          Originally posted by Mofra
          I think it should have been a free.
          Then again, JJ is lucky not to have a broken jaw and that was play on too.
          Originally posted by Testekill
          And Duryea should have gotten a free kick when he was taken high in a marking contest which resulted in an Eagles goal.
          Of course, but talking about the Caleb one
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          • EasternWest
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 10003

            Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Well not play on, should have been a free to Gaff
            No way.

            I can't believe you of all people are saying that. You were the chosen one.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21803

              Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

              Originally posted by hujsh
              Right? Surely defenders needs to still be able to defend even when out of position and Caleb's spoil was a clear and clean as it gets.

              So is this unclear? Are we saying that even though it's in plain English what's written isn't actually true?

              Should Callan Ward have been given a free for being knocked out by Cordy's knee? Eyes were on the ball, incidental high contact was made.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • MrMahatma
                Coaching Staff
                • Sep 2007
                • 3967

                Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                If Calleb was spoiling from behind, hit the ball but also hit Gaff’s head, would it be a free?

                Of course. High contact.

                Not sure what the debate is about.

                The confusion comes with “front on contact” when you miss the ball. But if it’s high, it’s high.

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                • MrMahatma
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 3967

                  Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  So is this unclear? Are we saying that even though it's in plain English what's written isn't actually true?

                  Should Callan Ward have been given a free for being knocked out by Cordy's knee? Eyes were on the ball, incidental high contact was made.
                  Define incidental contact.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66580

                    Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                    Originally posted by EasternWest
                    No way.

                    I can't believe you of all people are saying that. You were the chosen one.
                    Call it as I see it
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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21803

                      Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                      Originally posted by MrMahatma
                      Define incidental contact.
                      It's contact secondary to the legitimate act of pursuing the football solely.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66580

                        Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        It's contact secondary to the legitimate act of pursuing the football solely.
                        This is also interesting and puts doubt in my head.

                        Spoiling the mark

                        Spoiling is the technique typically employed by opposition defenders to legally stop a player from catching the ball. Spoiling is performed by hand or fist (as a punching action) either before or shortly after the player has caught the ball in their hands.
                        The rules are quite strict on defensive spoiling methods. Players are not allowed to push other players out of marking contests or make forceful front on contact with an opponent in a marking contest, if they are not simultaneously attempting to mark or spoil the ball. Also, no high contact is allowed unless such contact is incidental to attempting to mark or spoil the ball.
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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21803

                          Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          This is also interesting and puts doubt in my head.
                          I'm glad that further explanations in plain English are causing you some doubts!

                          I'm just teasing BAD and it's vexed because we've all seen free kicks paid for high contact in a marking contest.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • EasternWest
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10003

                            Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            This is also interesting and puts doubt in my head.
                            A momentous day of WOOF.

                            It's not ambiguous to me, but all that aside as I didn't know the word for word rule at the time, to the eye it definitely was play on and anyone who says otherwise is a mutinous scoundrel.
                            "It's over. It's all over."

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66580

                              Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              I'm glad that further explanations in plain English are causing you some doubts!

                              I'm just teasing BAD and it's vexed because we've all seen free kicks paid for high contact in a marking contest.
                              Originally posted by EasternWest
                              A momentous day of WOOF.

                              It's not ambiguous to me, but all that aside as I didn't know the word for word rule at the time, to the eye it definitely was play on and anyone who says otherwise is a mutinous scoundrel.
                              The rules are so grey no wonder supporters get confused
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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                Re: WB Game Day V West Coast R15 2021

                                It should have been a free kick but who cares.

                                Did we really just have 20 more scoring shots than the Eagles in Perth?

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