Ins and Outs Round 4?

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  • Griffo

    #16
    Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

    To rest Williams & Ward would be crazy (unless they're injured). They are two blokes who need all the games they can get at this stage.

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10133

      #17
      Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

      I'm all for resting players, but in round 4?

      The only one warranting of a rest is Cooney, as I'm still unsure of whether he is truly match fit. I'd bring in Welsh, as Coon's been playing as a forward more-or-less anyway.

      If there's a need for a tall backman, then Tiller should be dropped for Everitt (no idea how he got picked ahead of him today), if not, then drop him for Harbrow.

      If Picken gets weeks, then bring in either Reid (mid for mid) or Grant (see how close he is to the level)
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44579

        #18
        Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

        Originally posted by Happy Days

        If there's a need for a tall backman, then Tiller should be dropped for Everitt (no idea how he got picked ahead of him today), if not, then drop him for Harbrow.
        I think in Rockets mind Everitt might be 193cm tall but he can't be used as a tall defender.
        Tiller on the other hand generally does OK on taller opponents.

        My guess is that we could rest Akermanis and Eagleton.
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        • alwaysadog
          Senior Player
          • Dec 2006
          • 1438

          #19
          Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I think in Rockets mind Everitt might be 193cm tall but he can't be used as a tall defender.
          Tiller on the other hand generally does OK on taller opponents.

          My guess is that we could rest Akermanis and Eagleton.
          Rocket sees Tiller in out best 25 at this stage.
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          • lemmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6515

            #20
            Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

            Would give Cooney a rest didnt look fit and the trip to Perth could push him.

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            • AndrewP6
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2009
              • 8142

              #21
              Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

              I'd only rest Cooney if he's actually hurt. If he just needs game time, play him as he's been played so far, sparingly. I'm not sure we should view this game as one where we can afford to rest players -ie- Aker. If Picken gets an enforced holiday (courtesy tribunal!) then maybe Reid or Harbrow could get a go. I like Tiller, but those out-of-bounds were very ordinary. I'd drop him, and put Welsh in. Everitt could get a look in too... oh, and is Murph good to go? kind of glad I'm not on the match committee!
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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                #22
                Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                Just read that last post. It is now clear to me, I've sat myself squarely on the fence with many of those selections!
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44579

                  #23
                  Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                  Originally posted by AndrewP6
                  I'd only rest Cooney if he's actually hurt. If he just needs game time, play him as he's been played so far, sparingly. I'm not sure we should view this game as one where we can afford to rest players -ie- Aker. If Picken gets an enforced holiday (courtesy tribunal!) then maybe Reid or Harbrow could get a go. I like Tiller, but those out-of-bounds were very ordinary. I'd drop him, and put Welsh in. Everitt could get a look in too... oh, and is Murph good to go? kind of glad I'm not on the match committee!
                  I agree about Cooney, he needs to be eased along for the next couple of weeks but a holiday might not be the answer.

                  I'd consider bringing in Welsh and Harbrow for Akermanis and Eagleton. If Picken gets a spell then I would add Reid.
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #24
                    Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                    Was Harbrow dropped or was there another reason? If dropped he was very unlucky I thought he was great against North Melbourne. Acker is the only one that could be rested this week as he struggled towards the end of last year. Johnson is the only other one that could be rested but as he his the captain I feel he will desperatley want to a play a problem which may need to be addressed later in the year.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #25
                      Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                      Originally posted by Griffo
                      To rest Williams & Ward would be crazy (unless they're injured). They are two blokes who need all the games they can get at this stage.
                      It was heartening to see Williams out there today, and I agree, I think he needs as much game time as possible to get his confidence up. Cooney said on Saturday night on Before the Game that he was about 4 weeks away from full fitness - if's that's the case, then perhaps we should rest him. Need him to be in peak form in September

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        #26
                        Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                        I heave heard on the radio and the like the aim is to slowly increase Cooney's actual game time. round one was 55%, round two 60% and today i'm not sure. It would appeat the strategy is to play him not rest him.

                        In: Welsh and Everitt

                        Out: Aker (rest) and Tiller

                        If Picken is suspended, i'd like to see Reid given a run.
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                        • boydogs
                          WOOF Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5842

                          #27
                          Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                          Isn't murphy supposed to be back for round 4?

                          I would like to see Welsh in as well - two forwards I know so probably can't do it if murphy plays but good lead up players for the big ground. Picken holding his spot is really putting pressure on fringe players.

                          I would be thinking if resting players at round 4 only do it for injury (e.g. cooney) and maybe for aging midfielders (e.g. eagleton), not forwards johnno and aker

                          In: Everitt, Murphy (if fit)/Welsh
                          Out: Tiller (dropped), Picken (if suspended)/Eagleton (rest)
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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9880

                            #28
                            Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                            Wel Adam Cooney is out

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                            • Rocket Science
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 4854

                              #29
                              Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                              While he's squarely in the 'fringe player' category I'm otherwise unclear on the calls for Tiller's omission...I'm generally not his biggest fan but would argue he's been pretty solid for us across half-back thus far.
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                              • Before I Die
                                Senior Player
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 1031

                                #30
                                Re: Ins and Outs Round 4?

                                Originally posted by Rocket Science
                                While he's squarely in the 'fringe player' category I'm otherwise unclear on the calls for Tiller's omission...I'm generally not his biggest fan but would argue he's been pretty solid for us across half-back thus far.
                                Because too many posters have favourites and non-favourites. Fortunately the selection committee have a more objective view on who should and who shouldn't be getting a game.
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