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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: Footy Classified GF edition

    I would not be risking a footballer who:

    Stands at 193cm can kick, mark, run and carry the ball over so called 'whispers'.

    Until i hear from Everitt, the club or his agent that he wants to leave, then he stays in my eyes.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: Footy Classified GF edition

      I agree, people think draft picks are the be all end all. Well at the end of the day Everitt is a guy we drafted, a guy we have developed and then we just lose him and have to start over with probably someone who can turn out to be a dud? There's a reason why clubs would be after him. I just hope our club does everything to keep him. Because he's out of contract if we don't want to deal with anyone can Everitt do anything?

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5845

        #18
        Re: Footy Classified GF edition

        Originally posted by comrade
        It does beg the question - if he is so highly rated, should we be giving him up? I'd hate to see him ripping it up at another club after we've developed him.
        He is highly rated by other clubs who see his performances, his body size etc. but not his attitude towards training and his shortcomings. They think he is still developing, we have some defensive depth and forwards that can play back and think that is why he is not getting a game, particularly when he played a good one when given a go in round 22. That game could do us a big favour in the return we get for him in a trade.

        Without knowing the full story here, I would say don't be too worried about us under-rating him because other clubs are interested, they should be the ones wary of why we are offering the trade.

        I would like to know more from SS on his 'trading is the work of the devil' approach, but would assume the mutton as lamb disguise applied by the club offloading the player is part of it
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • Dry Rot
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 6471

          #19
          Re: Footy Classified GF edition

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          Like everyone else, I'm concerned about his intensity.
          If so trade him. If we really want a flag, then this has to be the new criteria.

          Picken, Harbow and Ward have shown what is required.
          The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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          • lemmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2008
            • 6593

            #20
            Re: Footy Classified GF edition

            Im against trading players of his talent, no matter the price. He could be something special and in my opinion you dont offload that sort of player.

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            • FrediKanoute
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2007
              • 3891

              #21
              Re: Footy Classified GF edition

              Originally posted by comrade
              If you believe the whispers, there are 6 clubs after to him - that could lead to some nflated offers.

              It does beg the question - if he is so highly rated, should we be giving him up? I'd hate to see him ripping it up at another club after we've developed him.
              Spot on.......if there are 6 clubs interested and some want to offer a 1st round pick you have to wonder if we have done something wrong in his development.

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14746

                #22
                Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                Originally posted by Dry Rot
                If so trade him. If we really want a flag, then this has to be the new criteria.

                Picken, Harbow and Ward have shown what is required.
                I agree, Hill's lack of intensity is also a worry.

                Does anyone else think that we are trying to put two first round draft picks together to make a play someone specific?
                The curse is dead.

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                • Hot_Doggies
                  Rookie List
                  • May 2009
                  • 401

                  #23
                  Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                  Originally posted by chef
                  I agree, Hill's lack of intensity is also a worry.

                  Does anyone else think that we are trying to put two first round draft picks together to make a play someone specific?
                  We should be able to get Hall with a 3rd or 4th round pick, might need to throw in GOK or Addison also.

                  Keep the picks.

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                  • chef
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14746

                    #24
                    Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                    Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                    We should be able to get Hall with a 3rd or 4th round pick, might need to throw in GOK or Addison also.

                    Keep the picks.
                    Depends what we can get. Two key forwards would be better then one.
                    The curse is dead.

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                    • Hot_Doggies
                      Rookie List
                      • May 2009
                      • 401

                      #25
                      Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                      Originally posted by chef
                      Depends what we can get. Two key forwards would be better then one.

                      Who are you going to get with pick 15? Tom Lonergan, a 31yr old Daniel Bradshaw, Brent Staker??

                      Get Hall. And play a kid alongside - Grant , Cordy, Boumann or Roughhead.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14746

                        #26
                        Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                        Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                        Who are you going to get with pick 15? Tom Lonergan, a 31yr old Daniel Bradshaw, Brent Staker??

                        Get Hall. And play a kid alongside - Grant , Cordy, Boumann or Roughhead.
                        Sorry, i was thinking more like two first round picks together as bait.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #27
                          Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                          I think we are pre-occupied with Everitt's 'potential'. Sometimes holding onto a player for too long hurts their trade value (see Farren Ray). If we traded Farren a year or two earlier we would have got a much better selection, that said, we got Liam Jones who looks a likely sort and I think that deal will be win/win.

                          If Eade and the coaches question his intensity, then they need to see what the market is prepared to pay. I don't think the club is forcing him out the door, rather seeing what the best offer might be. If the offer is for argument sake the Saints pick 16 or 17, then compared against his weaknesses the club might take the offer. If he tears it up at other clubs so be it, but if we get two good kids or trade for a big name which works out for us, then great.

                          I think we all see deficencies is our list and the need to trade for some of them. So if we are going fishing we need some good bait. Everitt with a decent game a month ago (the only one for the year) is good bait. It's not pleasant, but entirely necessary.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                            In the game he filled in he gave me the impression he may be better suited to the forward line than the backline. Certainly, I would favour him playing no fruther back than on a wing.

                            The problem is that body on body he is weak and I'm not sure that bulk will fix this. It is more about timing than weight.

                            His brother was happy to walk away from clubs at the drop of a hat and Dre might be the same.

                            On balance, as long as he has no issues with staying, his potential is such that I would prefer to keep him.

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              #29
                              Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                              The good thing is that given he signed a contract about a month ago we are in the box seat. Unlike Farren or Judas he cant walk out on us. Personally I would hate to see the bloke who was given No 3 up and leave.

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                              • Missing Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8501

                                #30
                                Re: Footy Classified GF edition

                                Originally posted by Hot_Doggies
                                Who are you going to get with pick 15? Tom Lonergan, a 31yr old Daniel Bradshaw, Brent Staker??

                                Get Hall. And play a kid alongside - Grant , Cordy, Boumann or Roughhead.
                                Spot on.

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