Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[The Underdog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Would we take the risk of having another year like this with Brian? Would we overcompensate after trying to play hardball with the Hill trade last year? Would we risk having an underperforming, unhappy, aging player on our list when we are looking to 'refresh' with some youth? What confidence do you have in our trading team to hold their nerve?

As for a contract, Lake knows that his body doesn't have long to go and will probably be happy to accept two years on top dollar, and clubs who feel close to a premiership will probably be happy to take the punt -- it's not a massive risk as it's only two years, and will pay for itself if it comes off.

Brian and his management know that they hold most of the aces here.

I have about as much confidence in our trading team to hold their nerve as our I do in our recruiting team to pick a decent player in the mid-20's. Close to none.
We can't complain on other threads about the club being weak and needing to take a stand on other issues and then want them to walk up to the trade table and present.

[G-Mo77]

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Because a fit Lake would make them a top 2 side and a premiership contender. They would go from a very good side to a great one IMO.

I think they would be regardless. They've been decimated by injuries and are still top 4. Healthy players and player development and they'll be right there next year.

[chef]

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I think they would be regardless. They've been decimated by injuries and are still top 4. Healthy players and player development and they'll be right there next year.

What are there KPD stocks like?

[G-Mo77]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

What are there KPD stocks like?

Light, doesn't mean you can't get buy with having a larger defender. Gibson does the job, Gilham back next year as well as a good group of smart defenders they'll be fine without paying overs for a shell of an AA defender.

[anfo27]

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Light, doesn't mean you can't get buy with having a larger defender. Gibson does the job, Gilham back next year as well as a good group of smart defenders they'll be fine without paying overs for a shell of an AA defender.

Even at full strength that backline is not good enough to take them all the way. Gilham ain't much chop, Murphy is ordinary, Gibson tries hard but is too small to play on the big big boys, Stretton & Schoenmakers are young and need time to develop. You put a fit Lake in that backline and all of a sudden they are a legitimate contender.

[lemmon]

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/123549/default.aspx

Mckenna apparently talking about trading pick four to lure some experience. Any chance of pick 4 for Brian as a straight swap or am I being delusional?

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsartic...9/default.aspx
Mckenna apparently talking about trading pick four to lure some experience. Any chance of pick 4 for Brian as a straight swap or am I being delusional?

I think they will be looking in the 24-26 yo experienced bracket. Old enough to add experience now and young enough to still be around when they are playing finals.

[ledge]

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I dont know what value Brian has now due to all the injury problems he has.
Lets reverse the situation would any of us want our club chasing Brian after all thats happened this year?
And would we be prepared to fork out the money he is being paid now with all this in mind?
I actually doubt it, I think he will stay but it depends on the coach.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I dont know what value Brian has now due to all the injury problems he has.
Lets reverse the situation would any of us want our club chasing Brian after all thats happened this year?
And would we be prepared to fork out the money he is being paid now with all this in mind?
I actually doubt it, I think he will stay but it depends on the coach.

Absolutely not, the only way I would chase him if it came at a bargain price. Giving up very little and paying part salary.

Hawthorn will not touch him.

[azabob]

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What about Cale Hooker? Has had injuries but could be worth a look. Seemed to be in and out of the essendon team towards the end of the season.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

What about Cale Hooker? Has had injuries but could be worth a look. Seemed to be in and out of the essendon team towards the end of the season.

Definite no.

Hooker is a spud.

[LostDoggy]

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Then we'll take their first pick and Andrew Walker and say thank you very much.

Unfortunately we missed a golden opportunity to get Andrew Walker last year. I hate to think that Fantasias ineptitude cost us the deal.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Unfortunately we missed a golden opportunity to get Andrew Walker last year. I hate to think that Fantasias ineptitude cost us the deal.

There has been a lot of negativity directed towards Fantasia, some of it he's maybe deserved but we can't blame him for everything that hasn't worked

I don't think Carlton or Ratten were ever really that serious about trading Walker last year and it seemed more designed to put a rocket up him, and he's still a complimentary player rather than a real focal point.

[G-Mo77]

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There has been a lot of negativity directed towards Fantasia, some of it he's maybe deserved but we can't blame him for everything that hasn't worked

I don't think Carlton or Ratten were ever really that serious about trading Walker last year and it seemed more designed to put a rocket up him, and he's still a complimentary player rather than a real focal point.

If we took the Hill trade then we had a piece to acquire Walker and I really think we would have made a decent play at him. Fantasia held out for more for a player who may possibly be delisted soon so the trade got nixed and here we are. Fantasia is a bum, don't know how he is able to keep his job.

[The Underdog]

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If we took the Hill trade then we had a piece to acquire Walker and I really think we would have made a decent play at him. Fantasia held out for more for a player who may possibly be delisted soon so the trade got nixed and here we are. Fantasia is a bum, don't know how he is able to keep his job.

IIRC we were trying to trade a player out to free up the salary cap space required to try and trade for Walker. That trade fell over due to the team taking a lesser washed up option and we couldn't fit him in regardless of if we could have put a trade together.