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  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    #1

    Sam Reid and GWS

    I'm only repeating what was posted on another forum but at least this is logical.


    The claim was that we would trade the Ward compo pick plus Sam Reid to GWS for pick 7.


    It kind of makes sense for us because pick 7 would likely deliver us someone like Will Hoskin-Elliott - according to the draft watchers he's super quick and a beautiful kick - just what we need. It also means we start the re-build a year early.

    It certainly makes sense for GWS. They have 100's of good kids now, they can delay using the compo pick for 5 years to stagger bringing highly rated kids into the club.


    I guess it all comes down to where we finish next year. If we rebound and make the 8 we've had a win on the deal. If we fall in a heap and finish 16th we've done ourselves out of a top 3 pick.
  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: Sam Reid and GWS

    That would be a nice scenario for us. I would take it. Even if we do well next year the draft is a lottery anyway.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Sam Reid and GWS

      Sounds like a win to me. I've already had a bet with a mate that we won't make the top 8 next season.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15479

        #4
        Re: Sam Reid and GWS

        It would be a win for us, but sounds a bit too good to be true.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Cyberdoggie
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2861

          #5
          Re: Sam Reid and GWS

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          I guess it all comes down to where we finish next year. If we rebound and make the 8 we've had a win on the deal. If we fall in a heap and finish 16th we've done ourselves out of a top 3 pick.
          A good point of discussion,


          I can't see us falling too much further than we have this year to be honest.

          We had a lot go wrong in terms of star players being out and we really only beat 1 team that is better than us clearly better than us in Carlton.

          That is evened out with a loss to North you could possibly say.

          We are in that large middle of the road bracket where 2-3 more wins gets you finals and potentially a good season, and a couple more losses puts you just above the easy beats.

          We won't be an easy beat next year with the players we still have alone but we will need to look to replace them and find some new key talent now.

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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6984

            #6
            Re: Sam Reid and GWS

            Pick 7= finishing 12th.

            GWS and GC will probably finish right near the bottom. Port too. If the Crows and/or Dees use their pick and finish beneath us that's an extra couple of picks down. I think that deal is good for us.

            Worst case scenario is we finish very low next year and we get an early pick anyway. Good to spread them out over a few years.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6984

              #7
              Re: Sam Reid and GWS

              BTW if it's the same as with GC, we will be able to secure another compo pick by allowing Reid to go as our 2nd uncontracted player. The Lions and GC did it with Brennan. The Lions got an upgraded pick in a trade + compo pick. No skin off GWS' nose as they don't pay for it.

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              • Missing-Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 3102

                #8
                Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                I like the sound of this

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                • The Coon Dog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7579

                  #9
                  Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  BTW if it's the same as with GC, we will be able to secure another compo pick by allowing Reid to go as our 2nd uncontracted player. The Lions and GC did it with Brennan. The Lions got an upgraded pick in a trade + compo pick. No skin off GWS' nose as they don't pay for it.
                  Why don't we trade about 8 of them to GWS?
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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6984

                    #10
                    Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                    Why don't we trade about 8 of them to GWS?
                    Haha, it's an interesting loop hole. If a club is happy to lose a player it suits them if they are actually uncontracted. Perhaps it is why we are getting such a good deal, we trade our two compo picks and Reid for pick 7.

                    Makes sense Reid wise as well. He brings more value from 'activating' a pick than he does from himself.

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11406

                      #11
                      Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                      This would be a fantastic result.

                      I highly doubt we'll finish lower next year. I'd suggest about the same, possibly a few spots higher - although it's all dependent on Cooney and Lake.

                      I'd take that deal and run.
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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        #12
                        Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                        Pick 7= finishing 12th.

                        GWS and GC will probably finish right near the bottom. Port too. If the Crows and/or Dees use their pick and finish beneath us that's an extra couple of picks down. I think that deal is good for us.

                        Worst case scenario is we finish very low next year and we get an early pick anyway. Good to spread them out over a few years.
                        Maybe GWS think we are going to be really crap next year

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6984

                          #13
                          Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          Maybe GWS think we are going to be really crap next year
                          Yep, I think that's a selling point as well. Either way neither of us really pay for the compo pick, it's a bonus.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7483

                            #14
                            Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                            I'd rather keep it for another year. We will be crap next year.

                            Our 99 class will all be a year older and we have no one that will be able to kick a winning score.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45517

                              #15
                              Re: Sam Reid and GWS

                              I would have thought GWS would want to keep pick 7 and our compensation that is being suggested is at best questionable.
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