Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

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  • jazzadogs
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Oct 2008
    • 5646

    #16
    Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

    Originally posted by dazb
    Sherman anyone?

    BMac wants quality people who go in hard for the ball.
    I doubt he would be out of contract. Will be interesting to see how he goes under BMac though, no question.

    I don't recall him being particularly terrible when it came to going for the hard ball, just preferred playing on the outside and using his strengths.

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      #17
      Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

      Originally posted by dazb
      Sherman anyone?

      BMac wants quality people who go in hard for the ball.
      What's between the ears is a bit soft, but the kid will bust a new one to keep his image in tact
      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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      • Maddog37
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3132

        #18
        Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

        Actually Sherman might just turn into a very good player if he can embrace The Governors teachings.

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        • turtle

          #19
          Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

          I know a few guys in Tassie who know Brodie (and his old man) very very well. The most prevelent feature in the Moles clan whilst at Glenorchy is their toughness. Brodie has never really been able to show that, but with Macca's increased focus in this area, I hope to see everything that I've heard about come to the surface.

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #20
            Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

            Originally posted by turtle
            I know a few guys in Tassie who know Brodie (and his old man) very very well. The most prevelent feature in the Moles clan whilst at Glenorchy is their toughness. Brodie has never really been able to show that, but with Macca's increased focus in this area, I hope to see everything that I've heard about come to the surface.
            He has some great run too.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • stefoid
              Senior Player
              • Dec 2009
              • 1846

              #21
              Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

              We have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds of a 'sooper draft' so you would think at least 5 guys are gone - its just a matter of who. Possibly more.

              Main list:
              Hooper - possible reason: not good enough
              Gilbee - possible reason: cooked
              Mulligan - possible reason: not good enough
              Moles - possible reason: poise
              Marcovic - possible reason: speed
              Addison - possible reason: footy smarts
              Hargs - injuries

              If hargrave is over his foot troubles, he might be one of those evergreen defenders. Dont underestimate experience and versatility in defence.

              Obviously any rookie who isnt training his guts out or has a bad run with injuries or doesnt show significant improvement of their faults is in the gun as well.

              JJ would be looking to cement his position as a good willi seniors player at the least, to get another year, you would think. Austin and Redpath would want to avoid injury (knock on wood)

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13236

                #22
                Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                Originally posted by dazb
                Sherman anyone?

                BMac wants quality people who go in hard for the ball.
                We need outsiders too. Grant for mine, too soft and too disinterested.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • JohnGentStand
                  WOOF Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 290

                  #23
                  Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                  Originally posted by chef
                  Minson for me, if he can't hold down the number 1 ruck next year than his career in the AFL is over.
                  spot on. Wil will never get the opportunity to own it again like he will this year. I hope he shows he has the will to do it. Wil's will will be on display! Sorry, got carried away.
                  I'm paying money, the girl's happy, she's got no money, I got my rocks off, how good is this...

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                  • AndrewP6
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8142

                    #24
                    Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                    Originally posted by JohnGentStand
                    spot on. Wil will never get the opportunity to own it again like he will this year. I hope he shows he has the will to do it. Wil's will will be on display! Sorry, got carried away.
                    Will Will's will be done?
                    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10157

                      #25
                      Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                      Good thread. Potentially there are a number of players in the make or break category, and really, just about the whole list is with a new coach coming in.

                      The list Stefoid posted is a pretty good summation, and making 7 changes to the senior list (including the vets list) next year makes sense given the picks we'll have.


                      A couple of others:
                      Vez might be in a bit of trouble. Recruitment of Dickson says to me the staff have some doubts over Vez being that small marking forward or that Dickson is simply a better option. If he can't play 20 games next year then he's gone I think.

                      Tom Hill is more of a project player who needs time, but given his injury background and that we have recruited and upgraded tall forwards, he'll be under pressure to keep his spot on the list. Jones, Grant and Panos will most likely get the first shots, then Skinner and Roberts who may also compete for spots. I get Hill is a slightly different player to most/all of the above, but he needs to stay on the park and play consistent VFL seniors.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44661

                        #26
                        Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                        Originally posted by Griffen#16
                        Tom Hill is more of a project player who needs time, but given his injury background and that we have recruited and upgraded tall forwards, he'll be under pressure to keep his spot on the list. Jones, Grant and Panos will most likely get the first shots, then Skinner and Roberts who may also compete for spots. I get Hill is a slightly different player to most/all of the above, but he needs to stay on the park and play consistent VFL seniors.
                        I popped in and had a look at the training session yesterday and Hill looks to have added some size and muscle. He was always going to need two seasons to develop and 2012 will be a good one to gauge how he is progressing. Given the way teams need their 2nd ruckman to be capable of playing as a forward he could be a solid investment. He's seems to be a more natural tall forward but he should also be a more than capable ruckman.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Dancin' Douggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 2876

                          #27
                          Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                          Hill's an interesting one. A sleeper there on the list with no one really talking about him anywhere.
                          Has he got the talent? He's just a big mystery to me.

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                          • macca
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2367

                            #28
                            Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                            wheather Will has a will, there is a way

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #29
                              Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                              MAKE OR BREAK YEAR 2012:
                              Will Minson (number 1 or the road!)
                              Jarryd Grant (former number 5 draft pick has confidence problems. Sheesh!)
                              Brian Lake (much decorated but in 2011 won only the Matthew Newton award for professional attitude)
                              Ryan Hargraves (as a bard once wrote "gather ye rosebuds while ye may... what's that - there's none left?")
                              Nathan Djerrkura (he's got some of it: pace and strength but ball skills need a heck of a lot of work - I'm being polite)
                              Ayce Cordy (still the Ugly Duckling but AFL ain't Hans Christian Anderson, baby)
                              Ed Barlow (well, he looks like a footballer but... More kindly, he plays like the Concorde: always takes off in a woosh but needs a lot of runway to pull up.)

                              GONE:
                              Lindsay Gilbee
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                              • AndrewP6
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 8142

                                #30
                                Re: Make or Break year - Who's potentially out of favour?

                                Originally posted by F'scary
                                MAKE OR BREAK YEAR 2012:
                                Will Minson (number 1 or the road!)
                                Jarryd Grant (former number 5 draft pick has confidence problems. Sheesh!)
                                Brian Lake (much decorated but in 2011 won only the Matthew Newton award for professional attitude)
                                Ryan Hargraves (as a bard once wrote "gather ye rosebuds while ye may... what's that - there's none left?")
                                Nathan Djerrkura (he's got some of it: pace and strength but ball skills need a heck of a lot of work - I'm being polite)
                                Ayce Cordy (still the Ugly Duckling but AFL ain't Hans Christian Anderson, baby)
                                Ed Barlow (well, he looks like a footballer but... More kindly, he plays like the Concorde: always takes off in a woosh but needs a lot of runway to pull up.)

                                GONE:
                                Lindsay Gilbee
                                Barlow shouldn't be in the make or break section. He's already gone!
                                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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