Ayce Cordy

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Christ, another wafer thin tall. He is right up Scott Claytons recruiting alley.

If he cant find any lightly framed mid fielders then his next best option is a tall player that is skinny as hell.

Ayce wouldnt be able to play on a windy day as they would need to fetch him out of Port Phillip Bay at the end of each quarter!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/saints-to-push-dogs-for-cordy/2008/10/01/1222651172055.html

Looks like he will have to go with our first pick

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy

The Saints have been frustrated by trying to recruit ruckman over a number of years and might look at Cordy as a nice solution to their problems in a couple of seasons time. There isn't a lot of downside risk for them to nominate him knowing at the very least we would feel obliged to use the next pick. If for some reason we didn't take that option it's not like the Saints would be screwed at all but at the very least they have made sure we don't pay silver and receive gold by getting him in the 2nd round.

I agree it's not a good rule and they need to come up with a better solution.

I'd like to see us offer pick 14 to St. Kilda for Kossie well before draft time.

Just to put some doubt in the minds of a few recruiters.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/new...651172055.html

Looks like he will have to go with our first pick

I know my prediction was more around a club that would be looking for a ruckman and how that might upset the applecart for us around getting Cordy in the 2nd round and SS idea wasn't a bad one however, at the very least, it now looks like they are prepared to call our bluff.

Whats everyone's thoughts on selecting a project player with the first pick?

[The Doctor]

Re: Ayce Cordy

It was mentioned on SEN this morning that Cordy was considered by one recruiter as being better than Natanui and Vickery.

Well we need a tall forward. We need a ruckman. Here's a kid who can probably do both. Makes it a no brainer for our first pick.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: Ayce Cordy

It was mentioned on SEN this morning that Cordy was considered by one recruiter as being better than Natanui and Vickery.

Well we need a tall forward. We need a ruckman. Here's a kid who can probably do both. Makes it a no brainer for our first pick.

Funny how you hear all sorts of wraps on the draftees at this time of year. I hope this is true. I guess we'll know in about 7 years time.

'He's the next Andrew McLeod' is one that springs to mind.

[The Doctor]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Funny how you hear all sorts of wraps on the draftees at this time of year. I hope this is true. I guess we'll know in about 7 years time.

'He's the next Andrew McLeod' is one that springs to mind.

I remember that call at the time and I thought it was just an outright stupid call.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Projecting key position players success at the AFL level is obviously much harder to project from the U18's but I dont think we can argue with Clayton for getting an athletic tall ruck forward combination on to the list with pick #14.

Clayton has always erred on the side of long range project players anyway but I think he showed last year with a few picks that he's adding some tougher almost ready types to the list also (Ward, OKeefe & Reid).

I still do not think that this new father/son selection process is in keeping with the spirit of what a father/son system should be about. I strongly believe that a father son system should never compromise a clubs first round draft pick, regardless of how good the kid involved is. However I know there are others that disagree with me

[GVGjr]

Re: Ayce Cordy

It was mentioned on SEN this morning that Cordy was considered by one recruiter as being better than Natanui and Vickery.

Well we need a tall forward. We need a ruckman. Here's a kid who can probably do both. Makes it a no brainer for our first pick.

Makes you wonder though if we had pick 6 this year and were a chance to get Vickery if we would still be as bullish at getting Cordy?

Cordy will take a lot of time to develop and I'd question if the majority of our supporters have the patience to wait before turning the blowtorch on him. Half way through the season when Grant went down with OP I started to hear that we wasted that pick and I'd imagine any sort of delay in Cordy's progress will be heavily scrutinized.

There is little doubt that he will land with us but we need to have plenty of patience.

[The Doctor]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Makes you wonder though if we had pick 6 this year and were a chance to get Vickery if we would still be as bullish at getting Cordy?

Cordy will take a lot of time to develop and I'd question if the majority of our supporters have the patience to wait before turning the blowtorch on him. Half way through the season when Grant went down with OP I started to hear that we wasted that pick and I'd imagine any sort of delay in Cordy's progress will be heavily scrutinized.

There is little doubt that he will land with us but we need to have plenty of patience.

You and I have both been around long enough to know that the opinions of 17 year old footy tragics or the plain uninformed matters little. Because a Rhys Palmer comes out and plays well in his first season and our guy doesn't these people post all kinds of rubbish about how we stuffed up. Yet these would be the same people that had we not chosen a KP with our first pick in the draft would have said the same thing.

Unless they are a freak (ie Judd) it always takes time for a 17 year old to develop. Some will show a bit more earlier than others but generally a draftee is more for the mid to long term anyhow. If they play well immediately then that is a bonus and sometimes that can be because the team was very weak in that position and had limited option (re:Freo and Palmer, how many hames would Palmer have got with the Dogs this year? 5 or 6?).

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Obviously someone will, but (including myself) can someone please post if draft camp results ASAP.

I would love to see how he rates if all this hullabaloo says he's top 5 material with a year out, a bung shoulder and no frame to speak of.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy

I'd question if the majority of our supporters have the patience to wait before turning the blowtorch on him. Half way through the season when Grant went down with OP I started to hear that we wasted that pick and I'd imagine any sort of delay in Cordy's progress will be heavily scrutinized.

I guess the questioning has come from recent past history with the disappointments from our drafting of tall players GVG.

Tim Walsh was a first round selection and we all waited patiently for zip. Tom Williams is another top ten draftee who hasn't been able to get going because of constant injury (at least we know he can play though .... albeit injury prone). Whilst Wight wasnt first round, he is another player who hasn't developed.

Maybe we fear that we are being forced to use a first round pick for a F/S and that Ayce may not be the best available option.

Dont some tall players actually have some bulk on them? Surely Roughhead, Franklin Kruezer, Pavlich weren't skinny like the ones that Clayton drafts!!!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy

I remember that call at the time and I thought it was just an outright stupid call.

True, up there with the next Dermie.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Makes you wonder though if we had pick 6 this year and were a chance to get Vickery if we would still be as bullish at getting Cordy?

Cordy will take a lot of time to develop and I'd question if the majority of our supporters have the patience to wait before turning the blowtorch on him. Half way through the season when Grant went down with OP I started to hear that we wasted that pick and I'd imagine any sort of delay in Cordy's progress will be heavily scrutinized.

There is little doubt that he will land with us but we need to have plenty of patience.

Disagree. We have waited 54yrs. Fans love coming to the game to see a glimpse of something special from a 19-21yr old and day dreaming what he could be like in 5yrs.

The thing that destroys football clubs is 'topping up' lists with expierenced players like Freo and St kilda. Dont get sucked into that 'Premiership window' BS.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Disagree. We have waited 54yrs. Fans love coming to the game to see a glimpse of something special from a 19-21yr old and day dreaming what he could be like in 5yrs.

The thing that destroys football clubs is 'topping up' lists with expierenced players like Freo and St kilda. Dont get sucked into that 'Premiership window' BS.

Jerry - call it Bulldog intuition but I struggle to believe that you are over 54 years old

However I agree topping up with fringe players is perhaps not the way for us to attempt ito win a flag. However, there are instances in which they can be very handy. So there is really no hard and fast rule. We could definitely use another ready made key position option on the list, but whoever that is wont neccessarily be a 200 game player for the club.

The reality iis f we are to win a flag over the next 2-3 years then the core group of players who will do it are probably already at the club.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Ayce Cordy

Dont forget we got SPANKED by Hawthorn. They were far too big,strong,quick,skillful,hard, tall etc etc. A couple of older players into our list isnt going to make a difference. We need to develop some quality kids. I dont think we have a realistic chance at a flag for another 3yrs.