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  • The Coon Dog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7579

    #1

    Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

    Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

    Mike Sheahan - April 14, 2009

    SURELY it is time for all of us to move on from the 2004 national draft and the decisions then that continue to haunt Richmond.

    The Tigers have paid dearly for choosing Brett Deledio, Richard Tambling, Danny Meyer, Adam Pattison and Dean Polo with their once-in-a-generation hand of five picks in the top 20.

    Terry Wallace was installed as coach several months before that draft and untried youngsters generally are the province of the recruiting staff.

    What has happened since under the heading of "list management" is more instructive of the Wallace reign.

    The Western Bulldogs would seem the fairest comparison, given these clubs have just played each other, given they finished in the bottom three in 2004 (separated by Hawthorn).

    The Doggies have fared much better in the field (untried talent) and in trading.

    From Monday's teams: Addison, Akermanis, Higgins, Hill, Hudson, Picken and Ward versus Edwards, Foley, Graham, Morton, Rance, Riewoldt and White.

    Richmond's most exciting youngster, Trent Cotchin, an emerging star of the competition, was not playing because of injury, but nor was likely Bulldog Andrejs Everitt.

    Foley is Richmond's big recruiting winner, an elevation from the rookie list in 2005.

    Yet the Bulldogs can counter with Dale Morris, also a rookie elevation that year.

    The problem for the Tigers is the period 2005-07 when the Bulldogs were far more astute.

    Shaun Higgins, best afield on Monday, was taken at No. 11; Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (No. 8) remains missing in action.

    The Tigers gave up a top-10 choice for Graham Polak in 2006. Polak's career has been disrupted by off-field events, yet he wasn't a front-liner.

    The Bulldogs secured Jason Akermanis for a second-round pick that year, and Aker's still a matchwinner.

    Perhaps the most damning of the lot is the 2007 exchange, when Richmond gave away pick 19 for Jordan McMahon.

    The Bulldogs used that pick on Callan Ward; seven years younger than McMahon, and bigger, stronger and harder at the ball.

    He will be in and out of the team this year, yet he is an outstanding prospect.

    Richmond has not chosen wisely, nor has it polished its young talent.

    None of its youngsters has grown like Higgins. Like Hill, a massive bargain at No. 61.

    The Tigers collectively suffer a mixture of poor decision-making and sloppy execution of basic skills.

    The modern game penalises teams severely for kicking errors in defence, yet Chris Newman is the only reliable kick in the Richmond backline.

    Wallace said on Monday night that he had to try to find a cohesive mix of blue-collar workers and superior users of the ball.

    Teams capable of challenging for a premiership have plenty of both.
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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14550

    #2
    Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

    Wallace said on Monday night that he had to try to find a cohesive mix of blue-collar workers and superior users of the ball.

    Its taken him 4 years to work that out?
    Bring back the biff

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #3
      Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

      At the end of the day Wallet is responsible and will be held accountable shortly.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

        Originally posted by ledge
        Wallace said on Monday night that he had to try to find a cohesive mix of blue-collar workers and superior users of the ball.

        Its taken him 4 years to work that out?
        That's what i didn't understand with what Wallace said, he has had 6 months of pre season to work this stuff out.

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14550

          #5
          Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

          Who is the recruiting boss at Richmond, is he still there and why?
          Bring back the biff

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15480

            #6
            Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

            Originally posted by ledge
            Who is the recruiting boss at Richmond, is he still there and why?
            I think Miller had a lot to do with it. I think now Craig Cameron from Melbourne took over this year.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14550

              #7
              Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

              Well Craig has a lot to do!
              Bring back the biff

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                #8
                Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                I think Wallet has to go... all this time, and they've gone nowhere...despite his assertions of inheriting a poor list, that was a long time ago. He and the recruiters have no excuses for the last few years. It's on his head... my tip is if they drop the game vs Melbourne, he's GORN! In the fine tradition of sports teams... the boss says his job is safe, which, loosely translated means - he's on borrowed time.
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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #9
                  Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                  Originally posted by ledge
                  Who is the recruiting boss at Richmond, is he still there and why?
                  Francis Jackson

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                  • Scraggers
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3584

                    #10
                    Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                    I have read this article several times now, and every time I do i giggle like a little girl ... he he he ... he he he ...

                    Glad he chose Richmond over Hawthorn ... glad he chose money over us ...

                    he he he ... he he he ...

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                      Just shows how decent a job Clayton has done over the years, sure there has been some aberrations, but overall a good job.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #12
                        Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                        Makes me then think about the 3 early picks Cheap as Cheaps traded away.

                        For Street, Koops and Rawlings (and passing of Nick Stevens).

                        You would think I could forgive him after all this time...
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27681

                          #13
                          Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                          Originally posted by 42-C-3
                          Makes me then think about the 3 early picks Cheap as Cheaps traded away.

                          For Street, Koops and Rawlings (and passing of Nick Stevens).

                          You would think I could forgive him after all this time...


                          I comfort myself with the thought it was a crap draft that year anyway.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • azabob
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15480

                            #14
                            Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                            Originally posted by 42-C-3
                            Makes me then think about the 3 early picks Cheap as Cheaps traded away.

                            For Street, Koops and Rawlings (and passing of Nick Stevens).

                            You would think I could forgive him after all this time...
                            Wasn't that Peter Rhodes handy work?
                            More of an In Bruges guy?

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67686

                              #15
                              Re: Tigers' picks no match for Dogs

                              The finals appearances in 1997, 98, 2000 and 2001 were all achieved off the back of recruitment in the earlier years, with great players such as Johnno, Smith, Darcy, Grant, etc. However, how much influence Wallet had of those selections as an assistant coach I don't know. All I do know is he had players in the 1997 team that were either peaking or about to.

                              In the years of 1997, 98, recruitment was woeful as we didn't have any young guys coming through (other than Brown) and we paid for that dearly in 2002 - to 2005 when those players should have been developed and ready. Therefore in 2002 to 2004 we had an older group, ie 26 years and above, we had new blood ie under 21 but a big gap between 21 to 26. Teams need a balance across all age groups/games experience.

                              I think we now have a much better balanced team and our recruiting in the last few years will keep this balancing going.
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