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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45517

    #61
    Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

    Originally posted by Mantis
    I watched them have goal kicking practice at a recovery session a few weeks back. I sat directly behind a group who had to kick from about 40m on a 45 deg angle. There was a cross-wind blowing meaning that a kick of normal penetration needed to be started just outside the right hand goal post in order to register a goal. The conversion rate would have been no better than 20% and I was staggered to see how many players started the ball in the middle of the goals even on there 3rd or 4th attempt only to watch the ball miss to the left.
    Do they have players on the mark or at least does the player lining up for goal have some sort of pressure on him to simulate some game day type pressure or is the session more around technique?

    It doesn't surprise me to hear that some of our guys are slow learners. Every time I see these sessions we just don't seem to be as focused as we should be and no one is riding the players on what they should or shouldn't be doing. The coaches don't get as involved as they should be when these skill sessions are being conducted. I think they believe that repetition will lift results and I doubt that it will.
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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15547

      #62
      Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Do they have players on the mark or at least does the player lining up for goal have some sort of pressure on him to simulate some game day type pressure or is the session more around technique?
      They have a cardboard cut-out type figure to represent the man on the mark.

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      It doesn't surprise me to hear that some of our guys are slow learners. Every time I see these sessions we just don't seem to be as focused as we should be and no one is riding the players on what they should or shouldn't be doing. The coaches don't get as involved as they should be when these skill sessions are being conducted. I think they believe that repetition will lift results and I doubt that it will.
      Pretty sure there was just one assistant coach at the session I watched and no-one seemed to be giving guidance as to where to aim in allowing for the wind, etc..

      To me it looked as if the players were simply going through the motions in this session.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45517

        #63
        Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

        Originally posted by Mantis
        They have a cardboard cut-out type figure to represent the man on the mark.
        I've seen them do something similar and because of the lack of supervision the players then to kick around obstacle rather than over the top of like they would have to during a game.

        Originally posted by Mantis

        Pretty sure there was just one assistant coach at the session I watched and no-one seemed to be giving guidance as to where to aim in allowing for the wind, etc..

        To me it looked as if the players were simply going through the motions in this session.
        Nothing much has changed then.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • Hotdog60
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 6010

          #64
          Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

          If we are a bit short on from coaches, they should ask past players if they could spare some time on a roster of some sort. Past players that were good at that particular task.
          Some of the older guys might enjoy a bit of involvement.
          Don't piss off old people
          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45517

            #65
            Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

            Originally posted by Hotdog60
            If we are a bit short on from coaches, they should ask past players if they could spare some time on a roster of some sort. Past players that were good at that particular task.
            Some of the older guys might enjoy a bit of involvement.
            I get what you mean but I don't think this is a staffing issue. I've seen 3 coaches standing back from 50 mtrs chatting.
            It comes down to organisation. It might help to get a specialist in as you are suggesting but I don't think our coaching crew know how to run the session effectively and they just hope the players gain something from it rather than driving a result themselves.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • Hotdog60
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Aug 2009
              • 6010

              #66
              Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I get what you mean but I don't think this is a staffing issue. I've seen 3 coaches standing back from 50 mtrs chatting.
              It comes down to organisation. It might help to get a specialist in as you are suggesting but I don't think our coaching crew know how to run the session effectively and they just hope the players gain something from it rather than driving a result themselves.
              This doesn't sound good, is this the result of the so called not enough finances in the footy department. We have a coaching coordinator don't we? Or is this a Rocket job as head coach.
              Don't piss off old people
              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45517

                #67
                Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                Originally posted by Hotdog60
                This doesn't sound good, is this the result of the so called not enough finances in the footy department. We have a coaching coordinator don't we? Or is this a Rocket job as head coach.
                As I said, I don't think it's a staffing issue it's just the sessions aren't supervised like they should be and seem to be managed from a distance. Lets face it, the forward and midfield coaches should be making this a priority. More staff but no more supervision/ownership won't help.

                From what I have witnessed it always seems to be a lazy session and I doubt we get the required results from it.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Hotdog60
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6010

                  #68
                  Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  As I said, I don't think it's a staffing issue it's just the sessions aren't supervised like they should be and seem to be managed from a distance. Lets face it, the forward and midfield coaches should be making this a priority. More staff but no more supervision/ownership won't help.

                  From what I have witnessed it always seems to be a lazy session and I doubt we get the required results from it.
                  What I trying to say is shouldn't someone be telling or coaches to get more involved with the players, golfers have coaches that when there game is not right they have one on one assessment. Maybe its just the way our coaches go about it, if thats the case I would fine it hard to get that extra improvement needed. Like the kicking for goal and the majority missing a high percentage because of the wind, if there was a supervisor of some sort they should tell the forward coach to go over and tell then what they are doing wrong instead of hanging back and chewing the fat.
                  Don't piss off old people
                  The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                  • Ghost Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 9404

                    #69
                    Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                    Lets start a petition. Adam gets a personalized goal kicking coach hence forth ^_^
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67684

                      #70
                      Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      Lets start a petition. Adam gets a personalized goal kicking coach hence forth ^_^
                      One of his issues with his kicking is he tends to get underneath the ball and scoops it very high up. His personal kicking coach should be Gilbee, but then again he has been down a bit with his kicking.
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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #71
                        Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        One of his issues with his kicking is he tends to get underneath the ball and scoops it very high up. His personal kicking coach should be Gilbee, but then again he has been down a bit with his kicking.


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                        • SPower
                          WOOF Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 50

                          #72
                          Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                          As long as he leans back the kick could go anywhere !!!!

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