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  • Bornadog
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    • Jan 2007
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    #1

    Dog 'in dark place'

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    ROBERT Murphy is concerned for the welfare of young Western Bulldogs teammate Tom Liberatore, who he says has "lost his way" and is "in a really dark place".

    Murphy, as a member of the Bulldogs leadership group, was part of the decision-making process that resulted in 20-year-old Liberatore being suspended for the rest of the season after police found him drunk and in possession of an illicit drug in the early hours of Sunday morning.

    It had been "a really emotional, difficult situation", Murphy told Fox Footy program AFL 360 on Tuesday night.

    "I know there's a football side of it and the discipline and all that kind of thing, but from my perspective it's more of a real concern for a young man, a young friend," he said.

    "I love Tom. He's a really good lad.

    "He's in a really dark place at the moment.

    "He's copping it from all angles. That's the world we live in.

    "My thoughts are with a young mate who's lost his way at the moment."

    Murphy also gave a poignant insight into what took place when Liberatore met the Dogs' leadership group.

    "Footy's an industry that's built on macho and not showing weakness and vulnerability, but we have these meetings and sometimes you have these moments where we're just laid bare," he said.

    "Inside a footy club, that's when it's so raw, and that was one of those times."
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  • LostDoggy
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    • Jan 2007
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    #2
    Re: Dog 'in dark place'

    Would love to know what's fact and what's fiction with this Tom situation? If you believe the gossip, it would appear that he is a well known party boy and one wonders why the problem hasn't been addressed. Also, what's with Aker "confirming" that Dahl was also on the gear?? If untrue, he should be sued.

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    • Bornadog
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      • Jan 2007
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      Re: Dog 'in dark place'

      Originally posted by Hobdog
      Would love to know what's fact and what's fiction with this Tom situation? If you believe the gossip, it would appear that he is a well known party boy and one wonders why the problem hasn't been addressed. Also, what's with Aker "confirming" that Dahl was also on the gear?? If untrue, he should be sued.
      If everyone knew he was a party boy, why hasn't someone stepped in before and tried to sort him out?
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      • LostDoggy
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        • Jan 2007
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        #4
        Re: Dog 'in dark place'

        Originally posted by bornadog
        If everyone knew he was a party boy, why hasn't someone stepped in before and tried to sort him out?
        Exactly bornadog, seems strange that the club would allow it to even get to this point. There are so many rumors that float around and it's quite unhelpful.

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        • Cyberdoggie
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          • Jan 2007
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          #5
          Re: Dog 'in dark place'

          Originally posted by bornadog
          If everyone knew he was a party boy, why hasn't someone stepped in before and tried to sort him out?
          Perhaps another example of the void in age group at our club.

          There's the older guys (mostly the leadership group), the younger guys and nothing in between.

          It's not only a problem on the field i think it also effects the dynamics of the whole club.
          When there's a dozen old blokes and a fair amount of young kids, they would no doubt clash over a lot of issues.

          They talk Mitch Wallis up as a leader but maybe he should have said or done something, It would surprise me if his mates at the club didn't know about it.

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          • Topdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7483

            #6
            Re: Dog 'in dark place'

            Originally posted by bornadog
            If everyone knew he was a party boy, why hasn't someone stepped in before and tried to sort him out?
            how do you know that they haven't?

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            • Bornadog
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              #7
              Re: Dog 'in dark place'

              Originally posted by Topdog
              how do you know that they haven't?
              Well they haven't succeeded if they have, which tells me there are bigger issues.
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              • LostDoggy
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                #8
                Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Well they haven't succeeded if they have, which tells me there are bigger issues.
                Sorry mate, but it tells me that he just doesn't listen.

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                • Bornadog
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                  #9
                  Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                  Originally posted by BornAScragger
                  Sorry mate, but it tells me that he just doesn't listen.
                  so everyone just accepts that?
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                  • Ghost Dog
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                    • May 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                    I'm in a Dark place with my footy club!
                    hey Libba, I'd love to have 40 hours a week work; even if it was mentally and physically challenging!
                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                    • azabob
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                      • Sep 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                      I'm in a Dark place with my footy club!
                      hey Libba, I'd love to have 40 hours a week work; even if it was mentally and physically challenging!
                      What has your work situation got to do with Liberatore and the demons he is facing?
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Ghost Dog
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                        • May 2010
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                        #12
                        Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        What has your work situation got to do with Liberatore and the demons he is facing?
                        He's being made to work 40 hours a week in a 'normal job'. For him, this is punishment.
                        Well, it would be a blessing for others.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • azabob
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                          He's being made to work 40 hours a week in a 'normal job'. For him, this is punishment.
                          Well, it would be a blessing for others.
                          Ah, now I get ya.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • LostDoggy
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                            • Jan 2007
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                            #14
                            Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            so everyone just accepts that?
                            He's an adult. He's responsible for his own actions. His mates can “look after him” to a certain point, but once beyond that point it's up to him.

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                            • Bornadog
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                              • Jan 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: Dog 'in dark place'

                              Originally posted by BornAScragger
                              He's an adult. He's responsible for his own actions. His mates can “look after him” to a certain point, but once beyond that point it's up to him.
                              Technically not an adult yet. Look I get where you are coming from, but it sounds like he needs help and its up to some senior people to give him some guidance and assistance.
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                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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