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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11121

    #46
    Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    Big big day for us. It's getting close now.

    Our team is on the surge and we need to nail this draft to take the next step to a sustainable period of success.

    Good luck Dogs.
    It's funny how as each draft approaches, we all stress the importance of doing well out of it, but you sense that if we nail this draft then given our list as it stands we'll lock ourselves in the top 4 for a number of years.
    W00F!

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #47
      Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

      Teams that have really successful eras tend to nail a few drafts in a row, building an extended crop that come through together. In a funny way, with such a good crop of under 22s, it kind of increases the stakes each year. A golden era awaits. Very toey about now.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66169

        #48
        Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

        Did we go best available, or did we meet needs?
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17926

          #49
          Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Did we go best available, or did we meet needs?
          Collins fits both criteria.

          Dunkley may also, as Dal is huge on him it seems.

          Adams was a needs pick.

          Williams is a smokey that could go either way.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66169

            #50
            Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

            Originally posted by comrade
            Collins fits both criteria.

            Dunkley may also, as Dal is huge on him it seems.

            Adams was a needs pick.

            Williams is a smokey that could go either way.
            Just read that is about what Dal said.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • stefoid
              Senior Player
              • Dec 2009
              • 1846

              #51
              Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

              We went with best available in Dunkley - hes the reason we decided to split pick 11. Collins being next best available with one of those split picks was a lucky and unexpected result.

              Isnt it funny that had we successfully traded for needs we would have Lobbe now and neither Dunkley or Collins.

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17926

                #52
                Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                Originally posted by stefoid
                We went with best available in Dunkley - hes the reason we decided to split pick 11. Collins being next best available with one of those split picks was a lucky and unexpected result.

                Isnt it funny that had we successfully traded for needs we would have Lobbe now and neither Dunkley or Collins.
                We'd have Lobbe plus Roughy, Minson and Campbell on the list. Too many similar types.

                Another bullet dodged, after missing out on the likes of Lonergan & Bate from years past.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44330

                  #53
                  Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Did we go best available, or did we meet needs?
                  I'm nearly convinced like that the 'best available' approach we say we take is a furphy. We see needs and draft in clusters. If our first 3 selections were each actually 5 spots earlier I'm tipping we would have come away with the same players.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Rocket Science
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4850

                    #54
                    Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                    Originally posted by stefoid
                    We went with best available in Dunkley - hes the reason we decided to split pick 11. Collins being next best available with one of those split picks was a lucky and unexpected result.

                    Isnt it funny that had we successfully traded for needs we would have Lobbe now and neither Dunkley or Collins.
                    Just on that, unsure if covered anywhere on here but am reliably informed a deal for Lobbe was actually agreed to by both clubs however the player was uncontactable while travelling during a critical window which ended up nixing the deal.

                    Silver linings.
                    BORDERLINE FLYING

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      #55
                      Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                      We were going to hand over pick 11? So lucky for US.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14868

                        #56
                        Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                        Originally posted by Rocket Science
                        Just on that, unsure if covered anywhere on here but am reliably informed a deal for Lobbe was actually agreed to by both clubs however the player was uncontactable while travelling during a critical window which ended up nixing the deal.
                        Similar to media reports - article reported that both clubs agreed, Lobbe agreed in principle but a medical couldn't be arranged in time as he was in Vietnam.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #57
                          Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                          A pick had to come back the other though.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Best Available vs Players that suits our needs?

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I'm nearly convinced like that the 'best available' approach we say we take is a furphy. We see needs and draft in clusters. If our first 3 selections were each actually 5 spots earlier I'm tipping we would have come away with the same players.
                            Tend to agree. Best available is a very intangible kind of a term - it's never purely about player talent. I think we go for best available under the given set of circumstances - why would anyone ever do anything other?

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