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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45517

    #1

    Draft Machinations

    From a Western Bulldogs perspective there is probably only one thing we can lock in for certain and that is Scott West's son Rhylee West will be at the club in 2019 with Buku Khamis a strong possibility.

    Pick 7 has 4 players in serious contention:

    Bailey Smith is a very determined and focused midfielder and forward who is both quick and highly skilled particularly by foot. He's a player who is the total package in terms of attitude, focus, physical attributes that includes explosive pace and he has a high football IQ. It also appears that Smith has somehow convinced interstate clubs not to select him otherwise I think Gold Coast at pick 6 would be all over him. StKilda shapes as our likely opponent for his services and could trump us at pick 4.

    Jye Caldwell is an explosive midfielder and is a powerful runner and kick. While he has missed a lot of football this year he has never been out of the potential top 10 conversation. His highlight package on the AFL Draft Machine is impressive but like Smith he is also highly regarded for his application and dedication towards his football. Gold Coast are right in the mix with their pick at #6.

    Ben King is this years most versatile tall. Primarily seen as a tall defender before the unfortunate injury to his to this twin brother Max, Ben moved forward to great effect. At 202cm tall it's hard to believe how well he tested at the Draft Combine where he was as elite for his sprinting recording an impressive sub 3 second result for the 20mtr sprint test.
    Port are apparently keen with their pick 5.

    Connor Rozee is a highly versatile midfielder who kicking skills, athleticism and balance make him an eye-catcher this year. He didn't have a great National Carnival especially when compared to the way he finished off the season for North Adelaide but his smooth moving style and quick reflexes caught the attention of many. He is also a very good mark for his size.
    Gold Coast at picks 3 and 6, StKilda at pick 4 and Port at pick 5 could all have him high on their draft priorities.

    Others to be considered at this spot include the unlikely chance that Max King is still there, Jordan Clark who is an impressive mid sized defender and maybe someone like Jackson Hately although that would be a stretch.


    Pick 27 seems to locked in for for Rhylee West. He is highly regarded for his stoppage and ball winning abilities and is strong in the contests. He is certainly a big chance to play significant senior football next season possibly more as a small forward with some stints in the midfield.

    Pick 32 is a great spot for us this year because there is nothing surer than the fact there will be a number of quality players still available.
    I get the impression that this is the pick that starts Nick Austins recruiting career with us. At pick 7 it's just best available and at pick 27 it's Rhylee West, they are the locks for the club and recruiter, but pick 32 is where it all starts for him.
    Does he go with best available, does he consider the gaps with the playing list, does he speculate just a bit on a player who excites him or do we already have a predetermined player in mind like we've done in the past?
    Given the talent pool this year it really is a great spot for a first year recruiting manager with us.

    Potential sliders include:
    Xavier O'Halloran a highly regarded midfielder and forward with strong leaderships skills with a Bulldog heritage and passion already in place. It's hard to see him still being available but sometimes you just have to dream. His testing results at the combine were excellent.
    Jez McLennan is an intercept marking and quick mid sized defender from SA who just takes the game on.
    Luke Foley is an excellent all round midfielder who can kick goals from WA who would easily play senior football in his first season.
    Jack Bytel is a midfielder who was highly rated early in the season but a bit limited somewhat by injury.
    Ed McHenry is a spirited and feisty small forward and midfielder who knows where the goals are and yes he supports the Dogs.
    Tom McKenzie who is a lightning quick midfielder or defender who posses good kicking skills.
    Connor McFadyen is a midfielder or forward who had an impressive season but is tied to Brisbane through their academy.

    Needs based players include
    Bailey Williams a highly athletic tall who has slid down the order but in a draft lacking tall's he should be in demand.
    Jacob Koschitzke at 195cm he one of the more versatile talls in the draft. More of a defender but a very capable player
    Kieran Briggs is a physical and competitive ruckman who is a strong mark. Tied to GWS he is the best ruckman this year.
    Riley Bowman is another ruckman who can play forward.

    The players who could excite
    Sydney Stack has plenty of pace and ball getting abilities along with being a natural tackler. It's hard to understand why a player who made the All Australian side isn't higher rated in many phantom drafts given his best is excellent.
    Laitham Vandermeer is probably more of a last pick consideration but he is a very exciting player who's run and carry abilities are eye-catching. Not drafted last year but has been impressive in 2018
    Boyd Woodcock is a small forward who knows how to kick goals and is a surprisingly strong mark for his size.
    Tom Sparrow a very solid inside midfielder who had a great season. Looks to be a touch slow but he would be worth considering.

    And there are plenty of others who are around the mark for picks 45 and 63.

    Buku Khamis is well known to most now. A latecomer to AFL football, Khamis has made a significant advancement this year playing for Vic Metro and even the All Australian side which is a tremendous effort. He has plenty more to learn but he has a good size about him and has excellent kicking skills.
    Thomas Berry had an injury interrupted season but make no mistake he is a very good midfielder or defender. His ability at attack a contest and take the game makes him standout out from many others. Highly rated earlier in the year he could be a bargain for us with a later pick
    James Rendell is a key position ruckman or forward with plenty of upside. Son of Matt we would need to be patient but for a team looking for a bit more height on the playing list he could be a good addition. More of a rookie prospect but could surprise.
    James Blanck is a tall and quick defender who tested well at the combine and is a neat kick. Lacks some strength but has significant upside. His sprints and agility testing were excellent at the combine and he is a good mark plus he supports the Dogs.
    Noah Gown is a key forward who finished the season strongly for the Gippsland Power. A very strong mark.


    I'll post some other names to consider later on but I'm very much looking forward to the draft and seeing which players we select.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
  • The Adelaide Connection
    Coaching Staff
    • Jan 2009
    • 2844

    #2
    Re: Draft Machinations

    If all of Smith, Caldwell, King, and Rozee are there at 7, I think there are actually only two options:

    1) Take Rozee (if that is who we want).
    2) Trade 7 and something (27 or 32 or a future 2nd) to Port for 10 and 15, or Adelaide for 8 and 13 or 16. Play them off against each other. Make them mud wrestle. They will both desperately want Rozee and they will pay overs (they'd pay that just for the satisfaction of beating one another).

    A pick in the mid teens gets us a Hately, Clark, Butters, Jones, Collier-Dawkins, etc. I really rate Rozee, but I don't think he is a Smith/Caldwell/King + one of these guys good.

    Dream scenario:
    7 and future 2nd traded to port for 10 and 15 (netting them Rozee and much needed points for their plethora of F/S next year).
    10-Smith/Caldwell
    15-Clark/Hately/Butters (least to most likely in that order)
    27- West
    32-O'Hallaran, McHenry, Williams, Woodcock
    45- Woodcock, Blanck
    63- Khamis

    Webb>Rookie list
    Townsend>Rookied. We have a pick before Richmond and just because we can.

    Imagine getting West, Butters, McHenry and Blanck who are all Dogs supporters!

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    • mjp
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7472

      #3
      Re: Draft Machinations

      Originally posted by GVGjr

      The players who could excite
      Sydney Stack has plenty of pace and ball getting abilities along with being a natural tackler. It's hard to understand why a player who made the All Australian side isn't higher rated in many phantom drafts given his best is excellent.
      Does anyone think we have:

      a/. The cojones.
      b/. The Leadership.
      c/. The indigenous welfare processes in place

      To enable us to even have Syd's name on the board?

      If he is still there after 20 picks it will be a travesty...I betcha he will be though.

      I feel like I gave everyone fair warning on Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan last year...you just watch Syd slide down the board.
      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45517

        #4
        Re: Draft Machinations

        Originally posted by mjp
        Does anyone think we have:

        a/. The cojones.
        b/. The Leadership.
        c/. The indigenous welfare processes in place

        To enable us to even have Syd's name on the board?

        If he is still there after 20 picks it will be a travesty...I betcha he will be though.

        I feel like I gave everyone fair warning on Tim Kelly and Liam Ryan last year...you just watch Syd slide down the board.
        Thanks for confirming my thoughts that if he does slide we should have him in our sights. I think the ABC options you have questioned can easily be put in place for the right player but perhaps we are lacking in all 3. West Coast with pick 22 and Fremantle with a pick before us at 31 could have him in their sights.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #5
          Re: Draft Machinations

          Stack appears in Knightmare from ESPNs list of underrated/bargain players listed this afternoon:

          Who could be this year's biggest draft bargains? Chris Doerre lists 10 players under the age of 20 who have shown enough to suggest they could be the biggest steals of the draft.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45517

            #6
            Re: Draft Machinations

            Other players in the mix

            Luke English an incredible ball winner and distributor who doesn't stop running or making things happen. Excellent enudrance
            Jacob Kennerley a midfielder with enormous athleticism and a high skill level. Won the 2km time trial at the combine
            Xavier O'Neill is another skilled midfielder or defender with excellent athletic traits. His powerful kicking is a standout skill.
            Joe Ayton-Delaney an attacking small defender who takes the game on. Good kicking skills and reads the play very well.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • lemmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6593

              #7
              Re: Draft Machinations

              Callum Twomey in today's Road to the Draft podcast suggests that we rate Caldwell above Smith, but think he'll be off the board.

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 8048

                #8
                Re: Draft Machinations

                Originally posted by lemmon
                Callum Twomey in today's Road to the Draft podcast suggests that we rate Caldwell above Smith, but think he'll be off the board.
                Gold Coast most likely. All depends on who the saints take.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45517

                  #9
                  Re: Draft Machinations

                  Originally posted by lemmon
                  Callum Twomey in today's Road to the Draft podcast suggests that we rate Caldwell above Smith, but think he'll be off the board.
                  I think that is a real chance. As BTT mentioned, GC at pick 6 and maybe even the Saints at pick 4 might have Caldwell ahead of Smith.

                  This is one of the reasons why I think pick 7 is a great spot for us. Potentially teams might want to trade with us, not that I would, and we should have 3 or 4 quality players still available to select from.

                  Smith is a gun, Caldwell should be a great player, Ben King is the most versatile tall in the draft and Rozee might be the most versatile midfielder in the draft. I don't think we should be losing sleep if these are the quality of players that are still available.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 22147

                    #10
                    Re: Draft Machinations

                    Yes, agreed.

                    I don't think I can remember a draft where I've been completely comfortable with our position in the first couple of rounds. Possibly when I knew we were taking Wallis and Libba most likely with our first two selections comes to mind.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • choconmientay
                      WOOF Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 1312

                      #11
                      Re: Draft Machinations

                      The Roar Maddy Friend Mock draft got Caldwell going to the GC before Smith to us.

                      West tipped to be the last name called out on the first day of the draft.

                      Smith to us is looking real day-by-day.
                      Last edited by choconmientay; 19-11-2018, 03:26 PM.
                      It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                      • choconmientay
                        WOOF Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1312

                        #12
                        Re: Draft Machinations

                        Draft pick trade restrictions and we are impacted ...

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                        Ten AFL clubs will be severely limited in their capacity to trade future picks on draft night due to the league’s strict rules and regulations.

                        Foxfooty.com.au can reveal Collingwood and Essendon, who both currently don’t hold first-round picks for the 2019 draft, will not be permitted to trade any future selections at this week’s draft, unless they receive a 2019 first-rounder back from a rival club.

                        The other clubs affected will be Adelaide, Carlton, Fremantle, Gold Coast, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, St Kilda and the Western Bulldogs — eight teams that have already traded away at least one of their 2019 selections. Due to that, all eight clubs will not be allowed to trade their future first-round picks during this week’s draft, unless they replenish the specific round future selections they recently lost.
                        Not sure what impact to us during draft day but keep it simple may be the rule for us.
                        It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                        • divvydan
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 1502

                          #13
                          Re: Draft Machinations

                          Our one seems weird. We've traded away a future 4th rd pick but gained a future 3rd round pick, so we're not exactly light on for picks next year.

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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10250

                            #14
                            Re: Draft Machinations

                            Originally posted by divvydan
                            Our one seems weird. We've traded away a future 4th rd pick but gained a future 3rd round pick, so we're not exactly light on for picks next year.
                            I think they’ve got it wrong.

                            Surely Essendon who seem to have traded first round picks for the last 5 years can’t trade anything. I thought they would actually have to trade back into the first round. Anyway...
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7472

                              #15
                              Re: Draft Machinations

                              Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                              I think they’ve got it wrong.

                              Surely Essendon who seem to have traded first round picks for the last 5 years can’t trade anything. I thought they would actually have to trade back into the first round. Anyway...
                              Ah...what about Geelong which has traded their 1st round pick out for the last 27 years in a row...
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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