Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45517

    #1

    Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

    Will Gould

    YOU COULD have forgiven Will Gould for having some nerves.

    Last month, the 18-year-old played for Glenelg in front of nearly 40,000 fans at Adelaide Oval in the SANFL Grand Final against the Port Adelaide Magpies.

    But, aside from some initial flutters running onto the field, Gould settled in quickly and was a key player as the Tigers claimed their first flag in 33 years.

    Gould's senior experience is one of the standout attractions for clubs considering the rebounding half-back at next month's NAB AFL Draft. And he, too, believes that he will be ready to play at AFL level as soon as next year begins.

    "When you get to an AFL club you have to start all over again and work hard, but being able to play with and against men this year, and AFL-listed boys in the Port and Crows teams in the SANFL, has given me good confidence I can come in and have an impact next year wherever I am," he told AFL.com.au.

    Gould's draft position will be one of the most intriguing parts of this year's draft. His qualities are all there in front of you: at 192cm and 106kg, he's a big-bodied player who uses his strength and body to get into position. He has had the frame not to be bullied by older and more experienced opponents this year.

    He runs straight, kicks long and direct, and plays with a minimum of fuss, earning comparisons to West Coast captain Shannon Hurn.

    But clubs will also be assessing Gould's long-term development and how much growth he has in his game, which will shape if his name is called in the top-30 on draft night.

    Whether it's on talls or smalls, I mix and match here and there. I like to run off half-back and break the lines. I've always been a reasonably big boy so I've always been able to kick a fair way.

    "When I've got the ball it's about hitting the hardest kick and sometimes I'll get sprayed for not taking the easiest kick, but for me off half-back it's about how I can help the team score and I love breaking the lines and making that happen."

    That was particularly obvious in Gould's performance for South Australia against Vic Country in the under-18 championships, when he had 26 disposals and kicked a late, long goal.

    It saw him win back-to-back selection as an under-18 All Australian, as only one of three players in the pool to achieve the feat.

    "It's incredible. It was a massive honour and that's the case every time you get to represent your country or your state. To be able to do that first year was a bit of a shock and I didn't expect it at the carnival, but to back it up this year was really pleasing," he said.

    "That's what I was focusing on this pre-season: how do I get better? I had to butter up and do what I did last year, but then take it up a notch. That's what I've been able to do this year."
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"
  • Bulldog Joe
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jul 2009
    • 5627

    #2
    Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

    I haven't seen any footage and rely on others in this space, but that is a massive unit at age 18.

    He will clearly be ready to go, but does he have (or can he develop) the stamina required for the sustained effort at AFL level.

    How did he test on the key elements?
    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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    • AshMac
      WOOF Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 1712

      #3
      Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      I haven't seen any footage and rely on others in this space, but that is a massive unit at age 18.

      He will clearly be ready to go, but does he have (or can he develop) the stamina required for the sustained effort at AFL level.

      How did he test on the key elements?
      That’s be my concern. Seems the strike rate for the big units is much lower and hence a riskier pick.

      He reads as an awesome prospect but the game seems to lend itself better to a lighter more agile frame.
      The dam wall has busted!

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45517

        #4
        Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        I haven't seen any footage and rely on others in this space, but that is a massive unit at age 18.

        He will clearly be ready to go, but does he have (or can he develop) the stamina required for the sustained effort at AFL level.

        How did he test on the key elements?
        To be brutally honest he tested poorly in nearly all of the tests. His 2km was very poor (might have been equal last) and his was poor in the 3 sprints tests

        The focus has to be on how much a club can improve those aspects because he can clearly play. The footy nous or smarts won't be a problem
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        • Bulldog Joe
          Premiership Moderator
          • Jul 2009
          • 5627

          #5
          Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          To be brutally honest he tested poorly in nearly all of the tests. His 2km was very poor (might have been equal last) and his was poor in the 3 sprints tests

          The focus has to be on how much a club can improve those aspects because he can clearly play. The footy nous or smarts won't be a problem
          That sounds like a miss for me.

          Without speed or stamina he will get burned defensively. He would need to be an exceptional one grab player to cover the athletic deficiencies.
          Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45517

            #6
            Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
            That sounds like a miss for me.

            Without speed or stamina he will get burned defensively. He would need to be an exceptional one grab player to cover the athletic deficiencies.
            I'm still interested in him but acknowledge there are some warning signs.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • dog town
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 1925

              #7
              Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I'm still interested in him but acknowledge there are some warning signs.
              It could mean he has even more scope for development. He won’t lose any strength by losing weight in an elite program. Clayton Oliver is a good example of this although I acknowledge they have some differences.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 15112

                #8
                Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                Originally posted by AshMac
                That’s be my concern. Seems the strike rate for the big units is much lower and hence a riskier pick.

                He reads as an awesome prospect but the game seems to lend itself better to a lighter more agile frame.
                Isn't it the opposite?
                Ayce Cordy, Spindleshanks, Cale Morton, etc etc

                Lighter players often just don't develop the strength required to compete. Jack Steven / Stewie Dew / Clayton Oliver / Adam Cooney provide some hope that the bigger framed guys (like Hurn, Rutten, etc) can make it.
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7472

                  #9
                  Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  To be brutally honest he tested poorly in nearly all of the tests. His 2km was very poor (might have been equal last) and his was poor in the 3 sprints tests

                  The focus has to be on how much a club can improve those aspects because he can clearly play. The footy nous or smarts won't be a problem
                  I just don't see how a player with those measurables is a high end pick. 3rd round 'flyer'? Sure - he has ability. But you don't get to be 106kgs by accident...and it isn't as if he didn't know he had a 2km test coming up at the combine - why wouldn't you, like, get ready for it? Yes - he played in the GF so didn't have a 4-week training block to 'fine tune his 2km'. What he did have was an entire footy season (and a lot of it training with a senior squad) to get ready.

                  This is the ultimate buyer beware.
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27681

                    #10
                    Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                    Originally posted by mjp
                    I just don't see how a player with those measurables is a high end pick. 3rd round 'flyer'? Sure - he has ability. But you don't get to be 106kgs by accident...and it isn't as if he didn't know he had a 2km test coming up at the combine - why wouldn't you, like, get ready for it? Yes - he played in the GF so didn't have a 4-week training block to 'fine tune his 2km'. What he did have was an entire footy season (and a lot of it training with a senior squad) to get ready.

                    This is the ultimate buyer beware.

                    Yep, seems like it. To put it into perspective he weighs almost exactly twice as much as me. I'm not saying that my lack of weight is a good thing but I know who I would draft out of the two of us (If I wasn't 55 years old that is)
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11486

                      #11
                      Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Yep, seems like it. To put it into perspective he weighs almost exactly twice as much as me. I'm not saying that my lack of weight is a good thing but I know who I would draft out of the two of us (If I wasn't 55 years old that is)
                      Scott Clayton would draft you as well.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27681

                        #12
                        Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        Scott Clayton would draft you as well.
                        Oh yeah, I am a Clayton special. Scotty would love me. I might be a bit short for his liking though-I never got to six foot.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45517

                          #13
                          Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                          Originally posted by mjp
                          I just don't see how a player with those measurables is a high end pick. 3rd round 'flyer'? Sure - he has ability. But you don't get to be 106kgs by accident...and it isn't as if he didn't know he had a 2km test coming up at the combine - why wouldn't you, like, get ready for it? Yes - he played in the GF so didn't have a 4-week training block to 'fine tune his 2km'. What he did have was an entire footy season (and a lot of it training with a senior squad) to get ready.

                          This is the ultimate buyer beware.
                          Yes, that was the disappointing part for me. He knew he had an important job interview coming up and didn't put himself in the best position to impress. Often talent will only take you so far.
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11486

                            #14
                            Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            Oh yeah, I am a Clayton special. Scotty would love me. I might be a bit short for his liking though-I never got to six foot.
                            There's still time, never give up on your dreams.

                            Although I'm glad you are under 6 foot, if you were over 6 feet tall weighing less than 55kgs I would be concerned we would lose you in a moderate breeze.

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27681

                              #15
                              Re: Why this 106kg half-back is likened to a premiership skipper

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              There's still time, never give up on your dreams.

                              Although I'm glad you are under 6 foot, if you were over 6 feet tall weighing less than 55kgs I would be concerned we would lose you in a moderate breeze.
                              I have to run around in circles under the shower rose or I don't get wet...
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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