Rolling Draft Order 2023

[bulldogtragic]

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Ok, so we have another key position father son who will cost draft points.

We need to hit the draft and start regenerating our young talent - namely midfielders. We are already two years behind the eight ball.

A few tough decisions coming up.

BT, I reckon we need four picks inside the top 30 and also enough points to pick up Croft if we want him. Your thoughts?

I?m not deviating from my post-2022 trade period plan if the picks stayed at these kinds of levels. Keep winning and if Brisbane find consistency then it?s getting interesting. But the cash to pull it off with change.

* Picks 8 & 11 - Best Mid Kids
* F1 - Trade Outside Run, ie Bergman (currently out on contract - apparently in our mix with Weightman when drafted, one pick later)
* Pick 29 - Trade for Kai Lohmann (currently out of contract) (after FA and bids, it?s mid-high 30?s and fair value for a kid we rate that went at Pick 21 two years ago)
* Late Picks for Points - F/S Croft
* FA - The pick of the crop probably Doedee (Currently out of contract - RFA - Adelaide may match the bid though, forcing a trade depending on compo - unless a completely unrelated trade happened with a player of ours going there?)
* Upgrade/delist several rookies hit their three year limit
* Pick a few new rookies
* Assess current vacancy or 2023 MSD draftee


- As the old men?s club retire, hope Gards, Buss, SoSOD & Croft can replace the old guys from this weekend.
- Super talls are Tim, Lobb & Darcy
- Forwards of tall with Naughton & Marra
- Hybrid medium forward in Cody
- Three small forwards in Jones, Clarke & Lohmann (forward line set for a decade with 6 natural, different forwards)
- A good intercept medium defender to replace Crozier & TOB
- First round quality mids to develop



Pretty handy draft hand after 4 Rounds on the rolling order.

I have no idea where Croft lands - Doc, G?

But the late points =Pick 35 Marched Bid Today (Assuming standard 197 point reduction)

So we have 6, 11, 29 & 35 (in points) and rookie spots to fill.

If we thought we could contend next year then I’d spend the cash and Future First on bringing in a midfield trade and Free Agent too. Per old quoted post.

I thought this was a list refresh. But I’m thinking it might be a rebuild. I’m not sure right now. But we have cash and picks, future picks and a line on Croft if we want him. Plus my man on the ground is still bullish on the youngest West son a couple of years away. So refresh or rebuild??? I’d love to ask Sam Power what the answer is. Can we jag a flag on the next two years, or see the best of Bont, Adz, Jack, Jones, Keath, Bruce, Doc, Lobb retire - or flame out - and then scratch our heads about what next?

[GVGjr]

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I have no idea where Croft lands - Doc, G?

Doc's probably got better intel but I'd say Croft is a mid 2nd rounder which mean our Brisbane pick should be good enough.

I thought this was a list refresh. But I’m thinking it might be a rebuild. I’m not sure right now. But we have cash and picks, future picks and a line on Croft if we want him. Plus my man on the ground is still bullish on the youngest West son a couple of years away. So refresh or rebuild??? I’d love to ask Sam Power what the answer is. Can we jag a flag on the next two years, or see the best of Bont, Adz, Jack, Jones, Keath, Bruce, Doc, Lobb retire - or flame out - and then scratch our heads about what next?

We have continued to be passive and overly patient with out list management by keeping marginally talented players for a season or two too long. With the investments in Ugle-Hagan, Darcy and Busslinger in recent years we are in a reasonably strong position for KPP and our focus should be on midfielders and small or medium sized forwards/utilities.

[Hotdog60]

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I don't really know the ins and outs on how the draft works but could you pick up a kid that is eligible for this years draft in the mid season draft?
Or it only for past draftees and delisted, state league players.

[azabob]

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I don't really know the ins and outs on how the draft works but could you pick up a kid that is eligible for this years draft in the mid season draft?
Or it only for past draftees and delisted, state league players.

Your second one.

[GVGjr]

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I don't really know the ins and outs on how the draft works but could you pick up a kid that is eligible for this years draft in the mid season draft?
Or it only for past draftees and delisted, state league players.

For mid season eligibility a player would have needed to have been overlooked from a previous nomination.
In essence it will be either someone who's playing in the state league comps or an overaged player who still in the likes of the TAC.

[bulldogtragic]

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Doc's probably got better intel but I'd say Croft is a mid 2nd rounder which mean our Brisbane pick should be good enough.



We have continued to be passive and overly patient with out list management by keeping marginally talented players for a season or two too long. With the investments in Ugle-Hagan, Darcy and Busslinger in recent years we are in a reasonably strong position for KPP and our focus should be on midfielders and small or medium sized forwards/utilities.

Mid second is perfect. With the FS discount our 3 x 4th will get him. To avoid risk losing our current Pick 29. Trade it out I say. I still think Lohmann.

That’s a FS second round. Trade former Pick 20 (or similar). A top 10 pick. A later first rounder. A Future First is there’s someone to chase. Cash galore for a quality free agent.

But I’m now genuinely confused if it’s a refresh or a rebuild. But we will see soon enough.

[Mofra]

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JPK like?

187cm, 90kg leftie who weirdly has a sidestep and worked hard to improve his tank prior to this season:

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/2023/03/28/sanfl-u18-player-focus-kane-mcauliffe/

Rated as a mid-late first round pick as it stands.

[Mofra]

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For mid season eligibility a player would have needed to have been overlooked from a previous nomination.
In essence it will be either someone who's playing in the state league comps or an overaged player who still in the likes of the TAC.

Luke Teal? IIRC he was considered by us, injury-impacted last year and he was unlucky not to go int he main draft, let alone rookie draft. Kept Sheezel under control one game and has carried decent form into this year. Duryea surely doesn't go around again and JJ getting on a bit.

[GVGjr]

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Luke Teal? IIRC he was considered by us, injury-impacted last year and he was unlucky not to go int he main draft, let alone rookie draft. Kept Sheezel under control one game and has carried decent form into this year. Duryea surely doesn't go around again and JJ getting on a bit.

I thought he would have been worth a chance. Good suggestion

[azabob]

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Luke Teal? IIRC he was considered by us, injury-impacted last year and he was unlucky not to go int he main draft, let alone rookie draft. Kept Sheezel under control one game and has carried decent form into this year. Duryea surely doesn't go around again and JJ getting on a bit.

I thought he would have been worth a chance. Good suggestion

The one roadblock is Richmond who Teal trained with over summer and eventually signed with their vfl team.

[The Doctor]

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The one roadblock is Richmond who Teal trained with over summer and eventually signed with their vfl team.

They don't have any hold over him though. If he is eligible for the MSD, and I assume he is, then anyone can draft him.

[bulldogtragic]

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UPDATED Round 5:

Ours:

Pick 5 (Dogs)
Pick 11 (Bris)
Pick 29 (Bris)
Pick 59 (Dogs)
Pick 63 (Geel)
Pick 68 (Melb)

(* 329 Draft Points in last three picks: Croft as a F/S as high as Pick 35 with no deficit (inc. of discount) if required)
(* 329 DPs where Croft is a late pick. Option to package up late picks to trade up the order in a DP Trade)


Giving:

Pick 23 (on top of 2022 Pick 30) for Rory Lobb — 1,444 DPs or =Pick 9 in DPs
Pick 41 & 50 (Hunter pick) on-traded for upgrade to Pick 29
= Hunter for a future 12 pick, second round, upgrade (=Pick 53 in DPs)


Free Agency Compo Tiers (at natural selection):

First: Pick 6
Second: Pick 24
Third: Pick 42 (Likely best case on Bailey Williams as a theoretical RFA)


*** Mid-Season Draft: Pick 5

[bulldogtragic]

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Pick 23 (on top of 2022 Pick 30) for Rory Lobb — 1,444 Draft Points or =Pick 9 in DPs

Freo not just with four premiership points to play for this week. Beat us, keep us 2-4 and keep their pick around 23. Basically kill our season, and hope our players know it and let us flounder.

I thought Lobb was a good get, a real positional move to help Naughty, Marra, Tim & Darcy and Bruce to go back. He may well give us the best three years of his career. But gee, Freo must be very, very happy to have banked Pick 30 last year and right now staring down Pick 23 in a strong draft this year.

[azabob]

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They don't have any hold over him though. If he is eligible for the MSD, and I assume he is, then anyone can draft him.

That’s true, except the currently have a pick before us.

[The Doctor]

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I have no idea where Croft lands - Doc, G?

Kicked 5 on the weekend but against ordinary opposition to put it into some context. Think we will get a better idea of his draft positioning after the champs. If he can keep hitting the scoreboard his value will rise a la Darcy.