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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45517

    #1

    Drafting in July - Inside Football

    Thought this might be interesting. It obviously makes no allowance for teams positioning themselves for the mini draft.



    1. Gold Coast
    Lachie Whitfield (Dandenong Stingrays)
    Ht: 184cm. Wt: 74kg. Position: midfield/forward.
    Class act. Does it all well and with minimal fuss.

    2. GWS Giants
    Brodie Grundy (Sturt)

    Ht: 202cm. Wt: 100kg. Position: ruck.
    The best ruck prospect since Nic Naitanui. Athletic and has a bit of "mongrel" about him.

    3. Melbourne
    Jimmy Toumpas (Woodville-West Torrens)

    Ht: 183cm. Wt: 77kg. Position: midfield.
    A Rolls-Royce in the SA midfield. Oozes class and leadership.

    4. Melbourne
    Lachlan Plowman (Calder Cannons)

    Ht: 193cm. Wt: 86kg. Position: defender.
    Missed the championships through injury but is the best rebounding key defender.

    5. Port Adelaide
    Troy Menzel (Central District)

    Ht: 186cm. Wt: 77kg. Position: midfield/forward.
    Brother of Dan. Smart midfielder who knows where the goals are. Coming off LARS surgery.

    6. Western Bulldogs
    Josh Simpson (East Fremantle)

    Ht: 183cm. Wt: 72kg. Position: midfield.
    Silky skilled midfielder rated as a top three pick by some recruiters. Good inside and out.

    7. Western Bulldogs
    Jake Stringer (Bendigo Pioneers)

    Ht: 191cm. Wt: 91kg. Position: midfield/forward.
    Broke his leg last season and still working back to fitness. Super talent though.

    8. Brisbane Lions
    Dayle Garlett (Swan Districts)

    Ht: 181cm. Wt: 75kg. Position: midfield.
    Smooth, left-footed outside midfielder who can play up forward.

    9. Fremantle
    Mason Shaw (South Fremantle)

    Ht: 198cm. Wt: 92kg. Position: forward/ruck.
    Only a fair carnival but has kicked plenty of goals in the WAFL colts.

    10. North Melbourne
    Jonathan O'Rourke (Calder Cannons)

    Ht: 183cm. Wt: 75kg. Position: midfield.
    Inside ball winner who is tough and a smart finisher. Missed most of 2011 with injury.

    11. Richmond
    Ben Kennedy (Glenelg)

    Ht: 174cm. Wt: 76kg. Position: midfield.
    Only small but a booming left footer with great pace.

    12. Carlton
    Oliver Wines (Bendigo Pioneers)

    Ht: 185cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: midfield.
    Big bodied midfielder who had a great carnival. A perfect fit for an undersized Blues midfield.

    13. Melbourne
    Sam Mayes (North Adelaide)

    Ht: 187cm. Wt: 78kg. Position: midfield/forward.
    Moved into the midfield this year and has flourished. Great athlete.

    14. St Kilda
    Tanner Smith (North Ballarat Rebels)

    Ht: 194cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: defender.
    Lock-down key defender with good closing speed. Another good fit.

    15. Geelong Cats
    Matthew Haynes (Northern Knights)

    Ht: 189cm. Wt: 76kg. Position: midfield.
    Line-breaker with blinding pace. Adds run to a slowing midfield.

    16. Essendon
    Joe Daniher (Calder Cannons)
    – father/son
    Ht: 201cm. Wt: 89kg. Position: forward/ruck.
    Top three talent. Great mark and long left foot kick.

    17. Hawthorn
    Nick Vlastuin (Northern Knights)

    Ht: 187cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: midfield.
    Good both inside and out and a smart ball user – qualities the Hawks love.

    18. Collingwood
    Laine Wilkins (Peel Thunder)

    Ht: 189cm. Wt: 78kg. Position: midfield/forward.
    Athletic type who has a burst of speed and nice left boot.

    19. Adelaide
    Tom Clurey (Murray Bushrangers)

    Ht: 193cm. Wt: 86kg. Position: defender.
    Elite kick on both sides; ran a 15 beep test, can play tall and small.

    20. GWS GIANTS
    Jackson MacRae (Oakleigh Chargers)

    Ht: 188cm. Wt: 75kg. Position: midfield/forward.
    Smart left footer who can play midfield and forward. Has a knack of kicking goals.

    21. West Coast
    Sam Lowrie (South Fremantle)

    Ht: 187cm. Wt: 80kg. Position: midfield.
    Prototypical size for a modern midfielder. Can win own ball and is a good runner.

    22. Sydney Swans
    Kristian Jaksch (Oakleigh Chargers)

    Ht: 194cm. Wt: 85kg. Position: forward.
    Can play at both ends but looks at home up forward.

    23. Brisbane Lions
    Liam McBean (Calder Cannons)

    Ht: 201cm. Wt: 83kg. Position: defender/forward.
    Great kick on both sides, and extremely athletic. Transitioned to defence recently with good effect.
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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45517

    #2
    Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

    I think Simpson is a strong prospect. I wouldn't have thought he was a top 3 pick as they are indicating but a good runner and uses the ball well.
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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #3
      Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

      Interesting, thanks for posting that.

      Simpson can do some special things, could do with someone like that.

      No Viney is interesting, they would have some inside knowledge by the look of it.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45517

        #4
        Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

        Originally posted by bulldogsman
        No Viney is interesting, they would have some inside knowledge by the look of it.
        I think the assumption is that GC and GWS won't bid for him. The Demons would be ecstatic.
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        • Scraggers
          Premiership Moderator
          • Jun 2008
          • 3584

          #5
          Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I think the assumption is that GC and GWS won't bid for him. The Demons would be ecstatic.
          But if any club bids, don't they have to use one of their first round picks??

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          • Scraggers
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jun 2008
            • 3584

            #6
            Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

            I would expect Jesse Hogan and Jack Martin, both from Claremont will go very early, if not top 20.

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            • Scraggers
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jun 2008
              • 3584

              #7
              Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

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              • Missing Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8501

                #8
                Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                Originally posted by Scraggers
                But if any club bids, don't they have to use one of their first round picks??
                This is my question also because they have pick 13 as well. Wouldn't they have to use that on Viney say if we bidded on him? I'm guessing no as he would at the very least be worth pick 13.

                Originally posted by Scraggers
                I would expect Jesse Hogan and Jack Martin, both from Claremont will go very early, if not top 20.
                Too young. Both mini draft picks.
                Martin would be the No 1 pick this year on talent IMO.

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                • Scraggers
                  Premiership Moderator
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 3584

                  #9
                  Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

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                  • Scraggers
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3584

                    #10
                    Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                    And one for Jake Stringer

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                    • Scraggers
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3584

                      #11
                      Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                      Originally posted by bulldogsman
                      Too young. Both mini draft picks.
                      Martin would be the No 1 pick this year on talent IMO.
                      I'll take your word for it ... but Hogan is only a couple of months younger than Simpson ??

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        #12
                        Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                        Melbourne have put valuable resources into Viney( played at Casey)
                        I think GWS or GC would bid for him ( particularly Sheedy) good fit for GC as well.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45517

                          #13
                          Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                          Originally posted by bulldogsman
                          This is my question also because they have pick 13 as well. Wouldn't they have to use that on Viney say if we bidded on him? I'm guessing no as he would at the very least be worth pick 13.

                          Although the rules below aren't specific my understanding is that it has to be a natural pick not a compensation one. In this instance, if Melbourne only finish above GC and GWS at the end of the season then only one of those two teams can try and force Melbourne to use pick 3 on Viney.

                          In 2007 the AFL made a major amendment for the father-son rule, establishing a bidding system to determine which draft pick a club must give up to secure the potential recruit. The current system works as follows:[2][3][4]

                          1. Individual clubs are free to nominate potential father-son recruits within the eligibility guidelines below.
                          2. A meeting is held on the Monday before the start of trade week where clubs can bid for the nominated players. Each club has the option to bid, in reverse ladder order, for the nominated players.
                          3. If a bid is made, the club that nominated the father-son player must use its next available selection if it wishes to retain its hold on that player. If a club nominating the father-son player declines to match the selection nominated, the club with the successful bid must use that selection at the Draft to select the player.
                          4. Any club that makes a successful bid on a father-son selection must commit to pick the player they nominate.
                          5. If no bid is made by another club, the club that nominated the father-son eligible player will forfeit its last selection in the draft to select the player.
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                          • Missing Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8501

                            #14
                            Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                            Originally posted by Scraggers
                            I'll take your word for it ... but Hogan is only a couple of months younger than Simpson ??
                            Hogan is a year younger.
                            Need to be born in 94 to be eligible for this draft.
                            Need to be born in between January 95 - April 95 to be eligible for the mini draft. So Martin, Hogan and Sheed would be eligible.

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                            • The Coon Dog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7579

                              #15
                              Re: Drafting in July - Inside Football

                              Originally posted by GVGjr

                              1. Individual clubs are free to nominate potential father-son recruits within the eligibility guidelines below.
                              2. A meeting is held on the Monday before the start of trade week where clubs can bid for the nominated players. Each club has the option to bid, in reverse ladder order, for the nominated players.
                              3. If a bid is made, the club that nominated the father-son player must use its next available selection if it wishes to retain its hold on that player. If a club nominating the father-son player declines to match the selection nominated, the club with the successful bid must use that selection at the Draft to select the player.
                              4. Any club that makes a successful bid on a father-son selection must commit to pick the player they nominate.
                              5. If no bid is made by another club, the club that nominated the father-son eligible player will forfeit its last selection in the draft to select the player.[/I]
                              Next available, the 2 most important words to remember when the F/S bidding process starts. If GWS or GC (assuming they finish 18 & 17) bid for Viney Melbourne must use its next available pic; selection 3, assuming they finish 16).

                              If GWS & GC don't bid & a team at say 6th pick bids, then Melbourne can snare Viney with pick 13, their next available pick.
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