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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
Grantysghost
Long down the line or someone runs passed for the hands xD
Poor kicks from defence. We have a few of those already
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Controversial view; Trade Naughton.
He?s not the gun forward. He?s unknown as a gun back. He?s on $850,000 and clearly wants more. He flies for marks and is a marketing dream. Maybe he?s worth more on the trade table than as a player.
Paying over $1M to not be an outright gun in a position doesn?t make a lot of sense. With Bruce, Lobb, Marra, Darcy & Croft we have cover for 1-1.5 goals a game. Huge draft picks and a million dollars deployed elsewhere wouldn?t be the worst thing.
Well, the talk up at Darwin was about Naughton being traded for West Coasts #1 pick this year.
I can't see any valid reason why this was being speculated on but given Bevo's love for Naughton I can't see this happening.
I know the aim of this thread was to get Naughton moved to the back line but it's not going to happen given in the 2 years prior he's kicked around 50 goals per season.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
GVGjr
Well, the talk up at Darwin was about Naughton being traded for West Coasts #1 pick this year.
I can't see any valid reason why this was being speculated on but given Bevo's love for Naughton I can't see this happening.
I know the aim of this thread was to get Naughton moved to the back line but it's not going to happen given in the 2 years prior he's kicked around 50 goals per season.
I’d happily take pick 1 and a try to grab a player too. Move the cash into other players. Get picks 1, 6 (being picks 12 & 17 to GCS on a points trade), Croft & Lohmann (only age 20) and some later picks. On top of the kids picked up this year and Darcy & Marra, I’m thinking that’s a good nucleus of a rebuild.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
hujsh
How many is he giving up by kicking it to the opposition?
True
I will never see #16 the same!!
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Forced move, but credit to Bevo.
Naughton looked handy down back.
Lobb and English got very dangerous and Cody had room to wreck havoc. Opened room for other like Bont to find room too.
Overall, it was a great move. Let’s see what Bevo does seeing a functioning forward line and a big KPD bit injured or very old, or bad. And winning.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
The question is if he's back do we bring in another tall forward or stick with Jamarra and Lobb?
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
hujsh
The question is if he's back do we bring in another tall forward or stick with Jamarra and Lobb?
Only if they’re natural forwards. I could live with Bruce as someone with the smarts not to clog up space and cover for KPD injury.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Only if they’re natural forwards. I could live with Bruce as someone with the smarts not to clog up space and cover for KPD injury.
So not Busslinger?
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
hujsh
So not Busslinger?
Probably not, not JOD either. Someone with the smarts to keep the space open and not spoil teammates. Maybe Buku at a push. But Bruce probably.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Naughton was serviceable as a KPD - no clear wins, but nullified a lot of contests. One really bad turnover. Given he was thrown in unexpectedly and with no clear opponent (Zurhaar not an ideal matchup), I was happy.
The key for me is how well the forward line functioned. Our first forward entry to a Naughton-less forward line was JUH leading up to the wing, turning and hitting up Lobb leading out from the square. Yes please.
Cody had room to move in, Hannan (who was unsighted in the first half) created some opportunities, Bont kicked 3...
I've been intrigued by the prospect of moving him back, mostly because I thought he'd be an elite defender or forward - but on today, it suggested that Naughton makes his forward line teammates worse and would still be better than Gardner/Bruce/Keath/TOB in defence as he can at least nullify a contest.
I'm all in, make it permanent.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
With Jones and O'Brien out Naughton goes back imo. Bruce is cooked forward or back.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
jazzadogs
Naughton was serviceable as a KPD - no clear wins, but nullified a lot of contests. One really bad turnover. Given he was thrown in unexpectedly and with no clear opponent (Zurhaar not an ideal matchup), I was happy.
The key for me is how well the forward line functioned. Our first forward entry to a Naughton-less forward line was JUH leading up to the wing, turning and hitting up Lobb leading out from the square. Yes please.
Cody had room to move in, Hannan (who was unsighted in the first half) created some opportunities, Bont kicked 3...
I've been intrigued by the prospect of moving him back, mostly because I thought he'd be an elite defender or forward - but on today, it suggested that Naughton makes his forward line teammates worse and would still be better than Gardner/Bruce/Keath/TOB in defence as he can at least nullify a contest.
I'm all in, make it permanent.
Ditto exactly.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
26 goals and heading for another 50. He stays Forward
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
26 goals and heading for another 50. He stays Forward
While we get smashed in defence, he spoils his team mates and clogs the forward 50. That was the most dangerous the forward 50 looked tonight. Not something to be dismissed on Naughty alleging kicking 3 a game every game for the rest of the year.
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Re: Do something with Naughton.
Originally Posted by
bornadog
26 goals and heading for another 50. He stays Forward
BAD with Jones out we just go back to the 2022 set up, it doesn't work we have proven that. Naughty should stay in defence until Jones comes back.