Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

[Bornadog]

According to Shane Warne

4 day test matches, 100 overs a day. 2 X 30 min breaks, extend play by 30 mins ! No toss, the away captain chooses to bat or bowl first, this will stop terrible pitches being played on & make the curator accountable to prepare an even pitch for both teams, which will hopefully be a contest between bat and ball not a flat road.

The Duke ball to be used in every country as it does more ie swings/seams for longer. The White Kookaburra ball to be used for all ODI's & 20/20 matches only.

Thoughts?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

Not the dumbest thing I've heard him say.

[Bornadog]

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Trouble is all the stats over 138 years would be thrown into chaos.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

Trouble is all the stats over 138 years would be thrown into chaos.

I think stats between eras are always problematic anyway, with smaller grounds, covered pitches, bigger bats, shorter overs etc, everything needs to be taken into context.

I generally like Warnies ideas, particularly if night games take off, which would make the 100 overs more achievable on a consistent basis. Think the 5th day could be held in reserve, to be used only if the full 400 overs aren't bowled over 4 days.

With the days saved, I'd really like to see touring teams get proper preparation for Test series. As often happens recently, this Series was hamstrung by NZ being underprepared and substandard during the 1st Test.

Like the visitors choose to bat/bowl idea, I advocated that in here a while ago.

[bulldogtragic]

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So CA & channel 9 want day night tests to increase revenue from attendance, advertising and sponsorship. But they're not going close to full length with nearly 20 wickets in 4 sessions.

Producing flat boring wickets gets them 5 actual days of attendance, sponsorship and advertising.

Interesting to see which bean counter wins the argument.

[GVGjr]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

So CA & channel 9 want day night tests to increase revenue from attendance, advertising and sponsorship. But they're not going close to full length with nearly 20 wickets in 4 sessions.

Producing flat boring wickets gets them 5 actual days of attendance, sponsorship and advertising.

Interesting to see which bean counter wins the argument.

They are messing around with pitches to compensate for batsman not applying themselves. Rod Marsh needs to stop worry about batsman 'being in a good head space' and start looking for players with better techniques and application.

I've said it before but cricket is wrecking cricket for the traditional supporter.

I can foresee a time in the not too distant future when test cricket will primarily be day night games in vastly smaller venues because it will be easier for fans to watch it on TV.

[Twodogs]

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Test cricket is going through a lull player wise at the moment. There's no truly great players like Warne, Gilchrist or Tendulkar playing at the moment. That affects the quality of the cricket.

[Greystache]

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Do we just have to accept the current day players aren't good enough to survive when the bowlers have reasonable conditions, and aren't professional enough to dig in and do it tough, so the only option left to the powers that be is to prepare lifeless tracks to ensure the games go 4-5 days?

[Twodogs]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

Do we just have to accept the current day players aren't good enough to survive when the bowlers have reasonable conditions, and aren't professional enough to dig in and do it tough, so the only option left to the powers that be is to prepare lifeless tracks to ensure the games go 4-5 days?

Maybe until the wheel turns and the great players return. The flat track bully years?

[Greystache]

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Maybe until the wheel turns and the great players return. The flat track bully years?

I wonder if the great players will ever return. The best players coming through are focused only on attacking every ball, have horrible technical flaws, and have no willingness to work hard for their runs if the conditions don't suit. They get accolades for performing low percentage shots, and make millions playing short form cricket, so their doesn't appear to be any motivation to change.

It seems administrators have given up and accept this is the new reality, so instead of trying to challenge the players to improve, they change the conditions assist them. Fans want to see a balance between bat and ball, but administrators don't want to see 3 day Tests. So the outcome is lifeless pitches that produce 5 days of dull and boring cricket, which is reflected by the ever dwindling crowds.

[LostDoggy]

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I posted before this match it was insane to produce 2 roads in the day tests and then a much juicier pitch for the night/pink ball test. Big overreaction. A more typical Adelaide pitch and the swinging pink ball would've offered a pretty good balance I reckon.

[GVGjr]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

I posted before this match it was insane to produce 2 roads in the day tests and then a much juicier pitch for the night/pink ball test. Big overreaction. A more typical Adelaide pitch and the swinging pink ball would've offered a pretty good balance I reckon.

Was the pitch that 'juicy' though? They appeared to me to provide an excellent track for both teams but one where the batsman needed to apply themselves. I know that is asking a lot of batsman but I do believe 4 scores of around 200 didn't accurately reflect the quality of the track. Thank god for Mitchell Starc's batting in the first innings under duress.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

Was the pitch that 'juicy' though? They appeared to me to provide an excellent track for both teams but one where the batsman needed to apply themselves. I know that is asking a lot of batsman but I do believe 4 scores of around 200 didn't accurately reflect the quality of the track. Thank god for Mitchell Starc's batting in the first innings under duress.

The pitch had a little more grass than usual. It was by no means a greentop, but given the pink ball/day night conditions, it was strange not to provide a more batting friendly surface, with the evening conditions providing the balancing conditions.

[Twodogs]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

I posted before this match it was insane to produce 2 roads in the day tests and then a much juicier pitch for the night/pink ball test. Big overreaction. A more typical Adelaide pitch and the swinging pink ball would've offered a pretty good balance I reckon.

Was the pitch that 'juicy' though? They appeared to me to provide an excellent track for both teams but one where the batsman needed to apply themselves. I know that is asking a lot of batsman but I do believe 4 scores of around 200 didn't accurately reflect the quality of the track. Thank god for Mitchell Starc's batting in the first innings under duress.

The pitch had a little more grass than usual. It was by no means a greentop, but given the pink ball/day night conditions, it was strange not to provide a more batting friendly surface, with the evening conditions providing the balancing conditions.

I'm listening to Grandstand at the moment and they are saying how great it was to have a test match go right down to the end. IT WENT THREE DAYS!!!!

[Twodogs]

Re: Test cricket needs the following to happen.....

I posted before this match it was insane to produce 2 roads in the day tests and then a much juicier pitch for the night/pink ball test. Big overreaction. A more typical Adelaide pitch and the swinging pink ball would've offered a pretty good balance I reckon.

Was the pitch that 'juicy' though? They appeared to me to provide an excellent track for both teams but one where the batsman needed to apply themselves. I know that is asking a lot of batsman but I do believe 4 scores of around 200 didn't accurately reflect the quality of the track. Thank god for Mitchell Starc's batting in the first innings under duress.

The pitch had a little more grass than usual. It was by no means a greentop, but given the pink ball/day night conditions, it was strange not to provide a more batting friendly surface, with the evening conditions providing the balancing conditions.

I'm listening to Grandstand at the moment and they are saying how great it was to have a test match go right down to the end. IT WENT THREE DAYS!!!!