Tests Finishing Early

[bulldogtragic]

The last two tests struggled to get to the half way mark. If a test finishes inside 3 days should the fans get an impromptu one dayer or T20 as compensation?

[Bulldog4life]

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The last two tests struggled to get to the half way mark. If a test finishes inside 3 days should the fans get an impromptu one dayer or T20 as compensation?

Or their money back.

[bulldogtragic]

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Or their money back.

True. I was thinking TV audience fans. The network would also surely make more revenue selling ads in a compo game than a JC Van Dam or Steven Seagal movie they fill the spot with at short notice. The players were expecting to play in any event. The ground catering businesses can also try to flog the supplies they got for the test match. Win-win-win-win ?

[Bulldog4life]

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True. I was thinking TV audience fans. The network would also surely make more revenue selling ads in a compo game than a JC Van Dam or Steven Seagal movie they fill the spot with at short notice. The players were expecting to play in any event. The ground catering businesses can also try to flog the supplies they got for the test match. Win-win-win-win ?

That's true. One or two one dayers look good.

[GVGjr]

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They've been talking about this on the radio. I think the general consensus is that the Windies need to play another game between now and the next test because they only have a 2 day game scheduled. That probably needs to be a 4 day game.

[bulldogtragic]

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They've been talking about this on the radio. I think the general consensus is that the Windies need to play another game between now and the next test because they only have a 2 day game scheduled. That probably needs to be a 4 day game.

A 4 day game?? Such is the windies form, then both teams get to bat 4 times each to make up 4 days of play?

[Twodogs]

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They've been talking about this on the radio. I think the general consensus is that the Windies need to play another game between now and the next test because they only have a 2 day game scheduled. That probably needs to be a 4 day game.

I'm not sure making them bat four times beteween now and the next test match is the best thing for them.

[GVGjr]

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I'm not sure making them bat four times beteween now and the next test match is the best thing for them.

I actually think the rich countries need to bolster up the Windies with a cash injection over a couple of years. If India, England and Australia each ponied up 2M a year for two years they could offer incentives for 20 or 30 players even more the chance to learn their craft in first class cricket over there. We could even bring in an under 19's team and here work with them. It would be a massive incentive for the players over there to focus on the game.

If we are a responsible cricketing country we need to quickly find them a 4 day game so they can be better prepared for the next test.

[Twodogs]

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I actually think the rich countries need to bolster up the Windies with a cash injection over a couple of years. If India, England and Australia each ponied up 2M a year for two years they could offer incentives for 20 or 30 players even more the chance to learn their craft in first class cricket over there. We could even bring in an under 19's team and here work with them. It would be a massive incentive for the players over there to focus on the game.

If we are a responsible cricketing country we need to quickly find them a 4 day game so they can be better prepared for the next test.

We have to do something. What about the idea that the ICC or one of the international banking houses becomes test cricket's paymaster and all test cricketers would receive the same rate whatever country they play for.

[Bulldog4life]

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Interesting to read what Brian Lara says about what is wrong with West Indies cricket

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia-v-west-indies-brian-lara-tells-inside-cricket-whats-wrong-with-caribbean-cricket/story-e6frf3g3-1227639868996

[GVGjr]

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We have to do something. What about the idea that the ICC or one of the international banking houses becomes test cricket's paymaster and all test cricketers would receive the same rate whatever country they play for.

It has the potential to have another Packer type super test series because players don't like working for a strict wage.

The ICC has to help the Windies and the Bangers to lift their performances.

[Twodogs]

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It has the potential to have another Packer type super test series because players don't like working for a strict wage.

The ICC has to help the Windies and the Bangers to lift their performances.

I think the players have to understand that we just can't keep playing series between Australia, England, South Africa and India.

Or maybe we can have those four nations in the top bracket and paid accordingly with a second and third bracket that are paid accordingly with a one or two year promotion/relegation system. Over a time period, say 18 months, each team plays a series against the other three at home and away and each team plays a series against one of the second tier and third tier countries. I'm thinking a five test home and away against one nation and 2x3 test series against the other two plus 1x2 test series against the second and third tier nations. That's 26 tests in 18 months. That's too many isn't it? 26 tests in 78 weeks doesn't sound so bad.

They have to have a system of having a champion test team inside a certain cycle or time frame is the point anyway.

[GVGjr]

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I think the players have to understand that we just can't keep playing series between Australia, England, South Africa and India.

Or maybe we can have those four nations in the top bracket and paid accordingly with a second and third bracket that are paid accordingly with a one or two year promotion/relegation system. Over a time period, say 18 months, each team plays a series against the other three at home and away and each team plays a series against one of the second tier and third tier countries. I'm thinking a five test home and away against one nation and 2x3 test series against the other two plus 1x2 test series against the second and third tier nations. That's 26 tests in 18 months. That's too many isn't it? 26 tests in 78 weeks doesn't sound so bad.

They have to have a system of having a champion test team inside a certain cycle or time frame is the point anyway.

That doesn't help the lesser sides because they don't learn as much. They need exposure to playing the best sides and West Indian cricket needs the finances to attract, maintain and develop their cricketers.
At the moment many players are playing in various IPL type competitions because that's where the money is. Dwayne Bravo for example hasn't played test cricket in 4 or 5 years because he makes substantially more just playing the T20 type games.

Offer 30 WI players under the age of 24 a two year deal at 250K per year plus match payments to play 1st division or test cricket and it will refocus players in the right direction. Have an elite U19 squad come to Australian and NZ and play games and get good coaching then it will eventually give WI cricket a squad of players coming though.

They develop players who just leave the game for the shorter versions because of money so to me it's about giving them reasons to play for WI cricket rather than just touring around and throwing the bat at a ball.

[Twodogs]

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That doesn't help the lesser sides because they don't learn as much. They need exposure to playing the best sides and West Indian cricket needs the finances to attract, maintain and develop their cricketers.
At the moment many players are playing in various IPL type competitions because that's where the money is. Dwayne Bravo for example hasn't played test cricket in 4 or 5 years because he makes substantially more just playing the T20 type games.

Offer 30 WI players under the age of 24 a two year deal at 250K per year plus match payments to play 1st division or test cricket and it will refocus players in the right direction. Have an elite U19 squad come to Australian and NZ and play games and get good coaching then it will eventually give WI cricket a squad of players coming though.

They develop players who just leave the game for the shorter versions because of money so to me it's about giving them reasons to play for WI cricket rather than just touring around and throwing the bat at a ball.

I think just playing a lot of test cricket together (they play 26 tests too) and the opportunity to play cricket full time with a regular wage would be a great step forward. Maybe there could be more interaction between the second and third tier teams. The second tier would be New Zealand, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and West Indies. The third tier. Bangladesh, ?,?,? Maybe the elite squads. you mention and matches against them wouldn't be tests but they'd be played under teest conditions-five days .etc.

There has to be an stablished system anyway. Otherwise test cricket will become irrelevant.

[LostDoggy]

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Funny, I was throwing up similar ideas yesterday in the Test thread. I reckon the ICC should look at imposing some form of fee for making the international players available to the various T20 comps worldwide. These fees could be pooled and distributed to the poorer nations, working towards proper recompense and development of their Test teams.