What's the solution?

[Twodogs]

Re: What's the solution?

Now with no Marshs' hopefully we don't get bogged down with anymore mediocre performances or swamped with horrendous batting collapses

I see what you did there!

Bevo was useless in tests. So bad in fact that he was picked as a first choice spinner batting at 8 towards the end of his test career, which is the ultimate insult for a top order batsman.

Couldn't cope with a barrage of short pitched bowling because he wouldn't keep his eye on the ball. The one an over limit in one day matches meant he could play of the front foot and dominate bowlers like he was Viv Richards knowing the ball had to me pitched it up to him 5 times an over. In test matches there were no restrictions back then.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: What's the solution?

Did I hear the news right??? Sutherland says we are lucky enough to be a top 10 country.

With the amount of nations playing Cricket in the top tier, there's only really about 10 sides. And for all the money that gets thrown at the sport. That's like saying Essendon & Brisbane this year were lucky enough to be in the top 17 or 18 spots in the AFEL.

The fish rots from the head.

[Scraggers]

Re: What's the solution?

Bevo was useless in tests. So bad in fact that he was picked as a first choice spinner batting at 8 towards the end of his test career, which is the ultimate insult for a top order batsman.

Apologies ... should have clarified. Bevan in the one day format or either Waugh in test cricket

[Twodogs]

Re: What's the solution?

Apologies ... should have clarified. Bevan in the one day format or either Waugh in test cricket

Those innings Bevan used to play in limited overs international was some of the best ODI cricket I've ever seen. Outside of world cups most of the one day cricket we play is pretty forgettable. I can't remember who the third team was that toured last year to participate in the prestigious and exclusive tournament named after a company run by middle aged white men in suits that sponsor it. It's not the Benson and Hedges cup anymore is it?

Anyway I remember watching began play those big innings that would always dig Australia out of the hole they were in and won another CRBWM cup win for the good guys. A bit like Hulk Hogan would always win in the WWF.

[The Pie Man]

Re: What's the solution?

I do subscribe to the 'never as good or bad as it seems' thinking with the 2nd test - a few of you have pointed out how bad a selection Mennie was and I completely agree....the ball swings in Hobart, yet we leave Jackson Bird out? (I haven't seen Sayers bowl, but if his capabilities are what's reported, he also would've been a much better option.) Picking Mennie says to me they hadn't watched him...I'm glad Rod Marsh has pulled the pin early.

Plenty of experience has left the team in the past 12 months, and more will likely need to make way again.

Wade will have to come in for Neville - though NSW people continue to argue he can bat, he just hasn't put it together yet. Can't wait for ever though (and I like the guy, we need more bogans like him, not less)

If Bird played, we might've troubled the Saffas more in the 1st innings and limited the lead - pace bowling really isn't too much of an issue. Lyon will have to make way - I'd play Maxwell.....and that's outside of Victorian bias - until we have a frontline spinner demanding selection, we should go with the runs of Maxwell and competent bowling/outstanding fielding. He does have a test 4 fa.....

Even try Agar again.....

Burns looks better suited to the middle order - S Marsh these days looks to have the requisite fight to survive at the level, if only his body can come along for the ride. If Marsh was fit, I'd drop Voges with Burns to play 6.

Brett Geeves wrote an interesting piece on rules governing age in domestic cricket - an excerpt below.

'Remarkably, he turned the domestic second XI competition into a glorified junior competition; implementing restrictions on how many players over the age of 24 could be selected in each team. Because 25 year-old’s were deemed past it and simply clogging the transition of kids who had nice techniques and success in national junior tournaments, but no runs on the board in the breeding ground of a once hot-spot for talented, battle-hardened men: club cricket.

The change was drastic, with seven out of the 11 players needing to be under 24.

This sent a message to states, and its contracted players, that if you were over 24 and not being selected in the first XI, your days were numbered.'

[The Doctor]

Re: What's the solution?

They need Bevo

[Twodogs]

Re: What's the solution?

Even outside of bad luck Burns just didn't look like an opening batsman. He wasn't comfortable facing the moving ball and wasn't moving his feet enough.

[comrade]

Re: What's the solution?

I'd play Maxwell. He might play stupid shots but he's just about the only batsman in the country outside Steve Smith and David Warner that can dominate an international bowling attack.

Man, we suck. This is Bulldogs circa October 2014-esque right now and there is no Bevo on the horizon.

[Axe Man]

Re: What's the solution?

Did I hear the news right??? Sutherland says we are lucky enough to be a top 10 country.

With the amount of nations playing Cricket in the top tier, there's only really about 10 sides. And for all the money that gets thrown at the sport. That's like saying Essendon & Brisbane this year were lucky enough to be in the top 17 or 18 spots in the AFEL.

The fish rots from the head.

I think he was saying we are playing that badly at present we are lucky to be in the top ten. He was giving the team a well deserved clip. I can't disagree with him at the moment.

[Topdog]

Re: What's the solution?

I dont understand why White is not in consideration.

[Twodogs]

Re: What's the solution?

I'd play Maxwell. He might play stupid shots but he's just about the only batsman in the country outside Steve Smith and David Warner that can dominate an international bowling attack.

Man, we suck. This is Bulldogs circa October 2014-esque right now and there is no Bevo on the horizon.

I bet the captain doesn't walk out and join another country.

[lemmon]

Re: What's the solution?

I dont understand why White is not in consideration.

He's batting 7 for Victoria

[LostDoggy]

Re: What's the solution?

An impartial scoring system that applies ratings on results and nothing else rated us the No.1 team in the world only a few months ago. How can things have turned so rancid so quickly?

[Twodogs]

Re: What's the solution?

An impartial scoring system that applies ratings on results and nothing else rated us the No.1 team in the world only a few months ago. How can things have turned so rancid so quickly?

We just gave played some truly rubbish teams at home on really flat decks just before the ratings were tabulated is all I can think of.

[Topdog]

Re: What's the solution?

He's batting 7 for Victoria

Yes he bats at either 6 or 7 for Victoria and thats the spot for Australia Im talking about.

An older head who doesn't panick