The Ashes 2017/18

[bulldogtragic]

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Some stats to keep any eye on in the calendar year.

Smith 888 runs (112 over 4 innings to get 1,000 again) & Warner 786 runs (214 over 4 innings to get 1,000 again). Not much other than them yet again.

Lyon, highest wicket taker this calendar year, 57 at 22.10. With two tests to come. Would be huge to finish as the top international wicket taker in 2017, conceivably a good chance to notch 70 wickets in a calendar year.

What's the most wickets in a calendar year BT? They are outstanding figures for a finger spinner but it's not surprising because Lyon is an outstanding finger spinner.

Warne with 96!

If Lyon can get to 69 that would mean only Warne (4 times), Lillee (1) & McKenzie (1) have achieved a higher amount from Australia. Or if he gets 10 more to get to 67 it's (Warne 6 times), McGrath (2 times), Lille (1) & McZkenzie (1). Amazing company, he'd be there already this year if he had a keeper like Marsh, Healy or Gilchrist to make catches and stumpings.

[westdog54]

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Warne with 96!

If Lyon can get to 69 that would mean only Warne (4 times), Lillee (1) & McKenzie (1) have achieved a higher amount from Australia. Or if he gets 10 more to get to 67 it's (Warne 6 times), McGrath (2 times), Lille (1) & McZkenzie (1). Amazing company, he'd be there already this year if he had a keeper like Marsh, Healy or Gilchrist to make catches and stumpings.

Australian cricket really was spoiled at times, wasn't it.

As well as proving his doubters wrong, Lyon has established himself as a cult figure. His place in the game's history is assured.

[Twodogs]

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Warne with 96!

If Lyon can get to 69 that would mean only Warne (4 times), Lillee (1) & McKenzie (1) have achieved a higher amount from Australia. Or if he gets 10 more to get to 67 it's (Warne 6 times), McGrath (2 times), Lille (1) & McZkenzie (1). Amazing company, he'd be there already this year if he had a keeper like Marsh, Healy or Gilchrist to make catches and stumpings.

That's great company to keep. People used to say that Gilchrist wasn't a very good wicketkeeper and we really only played him for his batting. I'd say "you stand up to the stumps for an over of Warney and then tell me Gilchrist doesn't know what he doing"

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Ashes 2017/18

Some stats to keep any eye on in the calendar year.

Smith 888 runs (112 over 4 innings to get 1,000 again) & Warner 786 runs (214 over 4 innings to get 1,000 again). Not much other than them yet again.

Lyon, highest wicket taker this calendar year, 57 at 22.10. With two tests to come. Would be huge to finish as the top international wicket taker in 2017, conceivably a good chance to notch 70 wickets in a calendar year.

2017

Lyon with 58 wickets* - 3 innings to go
Smith with 1,001 runs* - 4 innings to go (Max)

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[Twodogs]

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Simon Katich was just talking about Smith's early days in the NSW team on abc radio. Sais that he came in as a #7'batting, leg spinning all rounder although they knew he would move up the order as he progressed because he batted at #3 for Sutherland and "pumped out a heap of runs". He sais that in one game (in Perth I think) that smith was turning the ball square and having batsmen caught at second slip, pitching outside leg and hitting off.

[comrade]

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He has to be odds on to make 200+ now.

His record in the past 4 years is immense. Most centuries in a 4 year period ever, best average over a 4 year period ever, 3rd quickest player to 22 tons ever (behind Bradman and Gavaskar).

We're witnessing a cricketing immortal.

[Twodogs]

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He has to be odds on to make 200+ now.

His record in the past 4 years is immense. Most centuries in a 4 year period ever, best average over a 4 year period ever, 3rd quickest player to 22 tons ever (behind Bradman and Gavaskar).

We're witnessing a cricketing immortal.

Do you have the averages and figures for the first para please comrade? (Gough Whitlam called me comrade once, it was a life highlight)

[comrade]

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Do you have the averages and figures for the first para please comrade? (Gough Whitlam called me comrade once, it was a life highlight)

Enjoy, my good sir: Steven Smith's glorious four-year run

[Twodogs]

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Enjoy, my good sir: Steven Smith's glorious four-year run

Thank you very much Gou, oops, I mean comrade!

[westdog54]

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Enjoy, my good sir: Steven Smith's glorious four-year run

I'm sure I'm the only one, but reading that headline makes me want to see Smith walking out to this when he comes in to bat:

[Twodogs]

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Crikey. Bradman must have been a freak of nature;

Smith has already reached 22 Test centuries in his career in just 108 innings, which is third-fastest of all time, next only to Don Bradman (58 innings), and Sunil Gavaskar (101). Sachin Tendulkar got there in 114.

That means as dominant as Sachin, Smith and Sunik Gavaskar were early in their careers and as consistant as they were in their later years the Don was almost twice as good as them. Having watched Smith over the last few years and just how quickly captains are to go defensive against, to give up trying to get him out in favour of just trying to contain him then watching Bradman walking to the crease must have been downheartining for the fielding team.

[bulldogtragic]

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He has to be odds on to make 200+ now.

His record in the past 4 years is immense. Most centuries in a 4 year period ever, best average over a 4 year period ever, 3rd quickest player to 22 tons ever (behind Bradman and Gavaskar).

We're witnessing a cricketing immortal.

Yep, yep & yep.

1,088 runs this year, while still in and with perhaps three more innings.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Yep, yep & yep.

1,088 runs this year, while still in and with perhaps three more innings.

There won't be 3 more innings. Absolutely no need for Australia to bat a second time in Perth.

[Topdog]

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Crikey. Bradman must have been a freak of nature;



That means as dominant as Sachin, Smith and Sunik Gavaskar were early in their careers and as consistant as they were in their later years the Don was almost twice as good as them. Having watched Smith over the last few years and just how quickly captains are to go defensive against, to give up trying to get him out in favour of just trying to contain him then watching Bradman walking to the crease must have been downheartining for the fielding team.

Yep even ignoring the start of Smith's career he has 20 hundreds in 77 innings which Bradman still makes look average

[Greystache]

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Crikey. Bradman must have been a freak of nature;



That means as dominant as Sachin, Smith and Sunik Gavaskar were early in their careers and as consistant as they were in their later years the Don was almost twice as good as them. Having watched Smith over the last few years and just how quickly captains are to go defensive against, to give up trying to get him out in favour of just trying to contain him then watching Bradman walking to the crease must have been downheartining for the fielding team.

The other thing that's gets overlooked is he did it at all levels, consistently, over a very long time.

He played 234 first class games, made 117 centuries, and averaged 95.14 at that level as well. He even averaged above 90 at Grade cricket level.