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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11849

    #46
    Re: Australia vs the West Indies

    Oh, forgot the option of Hussey moving up and Hodge and Clarke at 4 and 5

    That works nicely
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44702

      #47
      Re: Australia vs the West Indies

      Originally posted by hujsh
      Oh, forgot the option of Hussey moving up and Hodge and Clarke at 4 and 5

      That works nicely
      Hussey is down on his form as well. I think we have to go in with a short term fix
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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15472

        #48
        Re: Australia vs the West Indies

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Hussey is down on his form as well. I think we have to go in with a short term fix
        Why don't we look for a long term option? Hayden is 36, for how long do they think he will be around for?

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44702

          #49
          Re: Australia vs the West Indies

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Why don't we look for a long term option? Hayden is 36, for how long do they think he will be around for?

          As a strategy I agree and hopefully Marsh is the answer but when only two genuine opening batsman are picked for the tour and one pulls out a day or so before the test then the selection comes down to Hodge or Kat. Kat was touted as the backup opener when the squad was picked so he gets the nod. Hodge was only added to the squad once GClarke as not available for the first test.

          We have a few gaps, spinners and opening batsman stand out as the main ones so the selectors need to show a bit of vision. In hindsight neither Hodge or Katich should have been selected.
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          • Sockeye Salmon
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6365

            #50
            Re: Australia vs the West Indies

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Hodge is no better than Katich in my opinion and I think the fact that Kat has played a lot more tests works in his favour.
            Katich has played a lot more tests and failed miserably in nearly all of them.

            Hodge has a better technique that is more likely to stand up to test cricket - oh, and he scored a heap more runs than Katich in the first test so he's in better nick as well.

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11849

              #51
              Re: Australia vs the West Indies

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              As a strategy I agree and hopefully Marsh is the answer but when only two genuine opening batsman are picked for the tour and one pulls out a day or so before the test then the selection comes down to Hodge or Kat. Kat was touted as the backup opener when the squad was picked so he gets the nod. Hodge was only added to the squad once GClarke as not available for the first test.

              We have a few gaps, spinners and opening batsman stand out as the main ones so the selectors need to show a bit of vision. In hindsight neither Hodge or Katich should have been selected.
              If only i was the chairman of selectors. I knew that all along
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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #52
                Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                Jacques appears to have gone under the radar

                He did not finish the Australian summer well and played an awful shot in the second innings of this last test. The site of an opener hanging the bat outside off stump and being drawn into an edge does not fill me with confidence.

                At least in their defence, both Hussey and Katich copped scorchers in the second dig.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #53
                  Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                  It was time to blood someone young.

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                  • Sockeye Salmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6365

                    #54
                    Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                    Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                    It was time to blood someone young.
                    We're talking about our test team, there is never any reason to blood youth.

                    It's not like footy where you have a draft and limited players on the list. Players are blooded playing Sheffield Shield and the best 11 get a baggy green cap. Age has nothing to do with it.

                    If the selectors think a 37yo will preform better than a 23 yo, the 37 yo should be picked. A test only lasts 5 days, he's not going to die before the end.

                    When the 23 yo performs at State level, pick him then.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #55
                      Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                      Well said Sir.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #56
                        Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                        I disagree. Players like Clarke, Waugh, Warne were all blooded before they were ready. You had 2 places up for grabs, both went to 30+ yo that had been given chances earlier and failed or their technique was suspect.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11849

                          #57
                          Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                          When you have 7 players of the age 32+ it would be unwise to not consider younger players.
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                            Ernie

                            I understand where you are coming from but Katich's performances in State cricket beat every record in the book since the competition began. There was a time when Sponsors gave major finanical rewards to any batsman scoring 800 runs in a season - Katich scored 1500

                            If the Selectors were to have any credibility they had to pick him. Otherwise what message does it send to others striving for a spot?

                            Yes he had been tried before but Hayden got a scond chance too - thankfully.

                            As Sockeye said - age is irrelevant.

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                            • Sockeye Salmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6365

                              #59
                              Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                              Originally posted by EJ Smith
                              Ernie

                              I understand where you are coming from but Katich's performances in State cricket beat every record in the book since the competition began. There was a time when Sponsors gave major finanical rewards to any batsman scoring 800 runs in a season - Katich scored 1500

                              If the Selectors were to have any credibility they had to pick him. Otherwise what message does it send to others striving for a spot?

                              Yes he had been tried before but Hayden got a scond chance too - thankfully.

                              As Sockeye said - age is irrelevant.
                              Age is irrelevant - previous failure aren't. Katich is a wizard in state cricket but has failed time and time again in test cricket - including the 1st test here.

                              Get rid of him - not because Marsh is younger, because Marsh is better.

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11849

                                #60
                                Re: Australia vs the West Indies

                                Originally posted by EJ Smith
                                Ernie

                                I understand where you are coming from but Katich's performances in State cricket beat every record in the book since the competition began. There was a time when Sponsors gave major finanical rewards to any batsman scoring 800 runs in a season - Katich scored 1500

                                If the Selectors were to have any credibility they had to pick him. Otherwise what message does it send to others striving for a spot?

                                Yes he had been tried before but Hayden got a scond chance too - thankfully.

                                As Sockeye said - age is irrelevant.
                                Was Katich even striving for a spot? I thought he'd given up on that like Gillespie had.

                                And screw what message we send, they have to make runs for their state anyway because that's what they're being paid for.

                                I thought his role was to be a former test batsman who would test young bowlers. Taking the mantle held by Lehmen and Bevan before him
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