England v Australia, ODI series

[lemmon]

New look Aussie side struggling to find their feet in the UK. We're 2-0 down after two one dayers.

From what I've seen, England's batting looks a class above. We need someone like Head to start bridging the gap and putting runs on the board.

[GVGjr]

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New look Aussie side struggling to find their feet in the UK. We're 2-0 down after two one dayers.

From what I've seen, England's batting looks a class above. We need someone like Head to start bridging the gap and putting runs on the board.

Batting is still the issue although we did concede way too many runs. Will we make any changes for the next one?

[Twodogs]

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Did anyone see Paine misjudge the bounce of that delivery and wear it in the face? That must have hurt.

[GVGjr]

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Another absolute thrashing, England make 6 for 481 (not a typo) and we responded with 7 for 221.

Bairstow and Roy made big centuries

[lemmon]

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It's the highest ever international ODI score and Australia's biggest ever loss...

[azabob]

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Yet we thought we’d get no value out of playing Bangladesh.

[Bornadog]

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We have lost 14 of the last 16 ODI

[ledge]

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We have lost 14 of the last 16 ODI

And that's 11 before Warner, Smith and Bancroft were banned !
Why would you bat finch and maxwell so far down the order that even if they got their eye in they would run out of partners.
Chasing such a score I would have opened with Finch and had maxwell come in at 3 .
What's the science of batting them so low , I accept Team is really young and no experience but hiding the only experienced batsmen so far down the order beggars belief.

[FrediKanoute]

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I'm finding it mystifying. Also, the decision to bowl first was a shocker. Flat deck that was only going to quicken up in the evening as the dew and humidity (yes currently humid in the UK) set in. Batting second was going to be a lot tougher than batting in the afternoon sun.

That said, a ODI side without Starc, hazlewood, Cummins, M Marsh, Smith and Warner is a pretty weak side.

[ledge]

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I'm finding it mystifying. Also, the decision to bowl first was a shocker. Flat deck that was only going to quicken up in the evening as the dew and humidity (yes currently humid in the UK) set in. Batting second was going to be a lot tougher than batting in the afternoon sun.

That said, a ODI side without Starc, hazlewood, Cummins, M Marsh, Smith and Warner is a pretty weak side.

Thing is they had lost ODIs when they were in the team as well. 16 of the last 14 they have lost.

[Twodogs]

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There has always been an antipathy toward Glen Maxwell from the Australian national setup. My read on it is they don't want him to succeed because pretty much the entire cricket establishment have decided that he isn't a viable option as an international cricketer. They don't rate his technique , think that he's all hand/eye coordination, he has a reputation for being difficult in the dressing room (how deserved it is I don't know. I do know that it's worth being difficult occasionly, sometimes it's the only way to get stuff done) and that he had issues with maturity and the patience/mental aspect of his batting. His performances got him into the team but they won't be very patient if he fails again.

I don't know why they are batting Finch so far down the order. Fair enough they want to try the new guy but send Finch in at no. 3. I can't believe that whoever is making the decisions in the Australian team set up would think to drop a batsman so far down the order and expect him to just adapt to spinners at both ends rather than a new ball and fast bowling and field restrictions. That decision suggests a lack of tactical nous.

[LostDoggy]

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At least if we're going to get smashed by England, it might as well be in the middle of a World Cup, so that no-one (especially in England) hardly notices. Seriously though, ridiculous to be playing a meaningless tournament at this time.

[ledge]

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At least if we're going to get smashed by England, it might as well be in the middle of a World Cup, so that no-one (especially in England) hardly notices. Seriously though, ridiculous to be playing a meaningless tournament at this time.

What do you want them to do in the off season here, nothing ?
The more you play at the highest level the better, and what better team to play against. The best one in the world at the moment, would you say no?
It's not a meaningless series you are learning from the best and seeing where your at.
No series is meaningless if it's against class teams.
You and I both know any time the Australians v England it matters in any form . A year away from the World Cup you want to play as many games as you can and get organised team and plan wise.

[Flamethrower]

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Maybe England should stick to the totally irrelevant ODI format - wasn't that long ago that the Test team (the real version of the game) made only 58.

[Twodogs]

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At least if we're going to get smashed by England, it might as well be in the middle of a World Cup, so that no-one (especially in England) hardly notices. Seriously though, ridiculous to be playing a meaningless tournament at this time.

I did feel for the Australian cricketers on Saturday night. While every other Australian on the face of the Earth was watching the Socceroos play France they were chasing Jason Roy shots all over the field.